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What if the hard things in life weren’t setbacks — but setups?

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Coach Rod Ray, Amazon #1 best-selling author of Hard Comes First and Head Coach of Wofford Tennis. We dive into what it really means to do hard things — not for the applause, but for the growth that no one sees. From leading student-athletes with humility to walking through seasons of pressure, pain, and purpose, Coach Ray shares the mindset that turns adversity into strength.

If you’ve ever asked, “Why is this so hard?” — this conversation is for you.

💬 We talk about:

• The origin and meaning of Hard Comes First
• How to lead when no one’s watching
• What strength looks like when it’s quiet
• The spiritual foundation that guides his journey

This episode will challenge, uplift, and equip you to carry what’s heavy — with purpose.

🫶🏾 143,
Two feet down. One head up.

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