Hard to Watch

Warning: this episode contains a pirate cat that no one can explain, a butterfly scene that lasts approximately forever, and Cookie Monster eating a car. Welcome to Hard to Watch!

Host Alex Parker sits down with actress, writer, director, and mom Colleen De Silva to put two 80s "kids' movies" on trial: The Last Unicorn (1982) and Sesame Street Presents: Follow That Bird (1985). Colleen watched both with her three-year-old, whose review of the soft-rock soundtrack was basically "Mama, this song will be over soon, right?" Honestly, same.

What we get into:

• Why a unicorn movie scored by the band America (yes, "A Horse with No Name") was a very strange choice
• The G-rated moments that felt oddly grown-up, and a voice cast stacked with Angela Lansbury, Mia Farrow, Jeff Bridges, and Christopher Lee
• Follow That Bird's one-liners, the tossed salad scene, that suddenly-it's-Lethal-Weapon car chase, and cameos from Chevy Chase, John Candy, Dave Thomas, Joe Flaherty, and Waylon Jennings
• Why both movies had our guest bored (and one of us nodding off before the end)
• A filmmaker's take on what makes a movie feel off, from mouths that don't move to jokes that stall the story

Colleen also shares what she's working on: her talk show Coffee with Colleen, a feature film in development, and her role in the short film Another Life.

Every episode, a guest picks a movie, Alex picks one to match, and together they figure out why they're hard to watch. Some episodes get heavy. This one gets a pirate cat.

Hard to Watch is produced by Creators Co., a Redding, California indie collective helping emerging artists create their work. Watch more at creatorscotv.com and follow @creatorsco.tv.

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Host Alex Parker sits down with guest Cory De Silva for the inaugural Hard to Watch as they dive into Julia Ducournau’s two most unhinged films — the cannibal coming-of-age nightmare Raw and the Palme d’Or-winning body-horror fever dream Titane. Expect unfiltered reactions, dark laughs, and the kind of conversation that happens when two people refuse to look away. This is Creators Co. TV’s first official trip into movies that hurt a little.