COS Theatre Director Chris Mangels joins the podcast today. 

Chris and Paul talk about what it was like to grow up in the ultra-insular town of Exeter. Chris shares how people would worry about whether he was doing well having taken theatre as his profession. But in reality he was getting a lifetime's worth of experience on sets in San Diego, New York and Chicago before becoming a theatre professor at College of the Sequoias. 

Together Paul and Chris talk about the grind of being a young actor, the stress about where they will get their next meal and the anxiety of whether another job might be arou the corner -- or not. 

Then they talk about the writers strike from 2023, and Artificial Intelligence creeping it's way into the classroom.