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The Loregate is open… We’re joined by Paul Riedl & Isaac Faulk, founders of one of modern death metal’s preeminent bands: BLOOD INCANTATION.

From the basements of Denver, Colorado, to glorious Pompeii… We get into the complete history the band.

From recording the first demo the second time the two of them ever hung out, untold production woes of their debut EP Interdimensional Extinction, beginning to find themselves on their incredible first LP Starspawn, how touring evolves from there as a band playing 13+ minute songs, the landmark Hidden History of the Human Race and its iconic artwork (& ensuing discourse) all the way up to creating their monumental masterpiece Absolute Elsewhere and taking the stage in Pompeii.

My first conversation with either of them, and the sparks flew start to finish. A truly remarkable band that we all get to know a lot better today. Enjoy.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:07 - Paul Riedl & Issac Faulk

00:01:43 - Discovering Extreme Music

00:13:26 - Metal Archives

00:20:14 - Paul & Isaac’s First Real Bands

00:34:47 - Blood Incantation's Favorite Aliens

00:38:54 - BLOOD INCANTATION

00:55:28 - Pardon this interruption…

00:57:45 - Blood Incantation is Fun, Paul The Prankster

01:10:21 - Interdimensional Extinction: A Tale of Production Woes

01:23:53 - Blood Incantation's Influences Evolving Over Time

01:31:25 - STARSPAWN

01:36:19 - Rorschach Test

01:39:04 - Blood Incantation's Otherworldy Pre-Show Ritual

01:40:47 - Evolution of Touring and Live Show

01:52:50 - HIDDEN HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE

02:20:56 - Does Hidden History feel like Blood Incantation's Final Form?

02:28:21 - Hidden History Album Art

02:34:21 - 2020, Lockdown, TIMEWAVE ZERO

02:47:38 - Paul Releasing A Split With His Late Father

02:53:54 - Stormkeep

02:58:42 - Luminescent Bridge

03:09:27 - ABSOLUTE ELSEWHERE

03:18:58 - The Message

03:23:44 - Arthur Rizk

03:36:37 - FOOD

03:41:02 - Rapid Fire: Blood Incantation Edition

03:54:07 - Thoughts on A.I.

04:04:30 - Top 4 Death Metal Bands Of All Time#HARDLORE

We went lookin' for trouble and we found Kenny Hickey, guitarist and co-founder of HardLore's collective favorite band of all time: Type O Negative.

We discuss the entire history of Type O Negative from Kenny's perspective, starting from the beginning at his introduction to music as a lifelong rocker/metalhead, his intimidating introduction to Peter Steele as a teenager, the many early phases and band names of Type O, we reflect on their entire discography and the tours & tribulations in between in chronological order, all the way up to the tragic loss of Peter in 2010.

We're joined by long time friend of the show Andrew Saba, currently of The Virgos, formerly of Harms Way, Nails, Bad Seed and more.

These days Kenny is rocking in Silvertomb (New album out November 13th) and Sun Don't Shine and we can't thank him enough for joining us for this historic conversation.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:34 - Kenneth Sean Hickey

00:02:43 - Kenny Discovering Music

00:04:50 - Peter Steele & Josh Silver Entering His Life

00:09:55 - Kenny's Early Bands

00:12:09 - The Origin of Type O Negative

00:20:14 - Type O Negative's Imagery, Band Name & Early Goals

00:27:07 - SLOW, DEEP AND HARD

00:33:15 - Early Type O Negative Shows & Signing to Roadrunner

00:40:09 - Type O Negative's First Tour w/ The Exploited & Biohazard

00:46:38 - Pardon this interruption...

00:48:21 - Type O Negative Merch

00:52:51 - Sal Abruscato, Roadrunner & More Tour Woes

00:57:58 - Type O Negative's First European Tour & Peter's Controversial Press

01:05:35 - ORIGIN OF THE FECES

01:15:05 - BLOODY KISSES

01:24:47 - Modern Day Goth Culture

01:31:03 - Type O Becoming Financially Sustainable

01:35:17 - Life of Agony & Sal Leaving Type O

01:40:37 - Johnny Kelly

01:44:50 - Success, Motley Crue, Beavis and Butthead

01:53:37 - Pardon this last interruption...

01:55:36 - Pete's Playgirl Spread & Pantera Tours

01:59:31 - OCTOBER RUST

02:15:49 - Deftones Beef at UFest 1996

02:19:18 - Cocaine's Effects on Type O

02:24:54 - After Dark

02:27:57 - WORLD COMING DOWN

02:35:31 - 1999-2003

02:39:52 - LIFE IS KILLING ME

02:47:24 - Napster, Torrents and the Collapse of the Music Industry

02:49:24 - Peter Steele Goes to Ryker's

02:52:39 - IT'S KFC OR LAX (Food on the road)

02:54:57 - DEAD AGAIN

03:05:26 - Peter Steele Passes Away

03:10:16 - Will Type O Negative Come Back?

03:14:34 - Silvertomb

03:19:34 - Rapid Fire: Kenny Hickey Edition

03:25:17 - Kenny's Top 4 Hardcore Records

Hello, welcome back! We’re joined by legendary punk/hardcore pioneer KEITH MORRIS, co-founder of Black Flag and the band that the second half of this historic conversation focuses on: THE CIRCLE JERKS.

We talk their iconic debut LP GROUP SEX, it’s timeless follow up Wild In The Streets, the Decline of Western Civilization documentary being a business card for the band moving forward, their appearance in the cult classic Repo Man, their constant battle with the Bad Religion schedule, Keith’s appearance in Grand Theft Auto V and MUCH more.

Thank you again to Keith and my very special guest co-host Anthony Anzaldo of Ceremony for joining us for a true landmark pair of episodes.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:37 - THE CIRCLE JERKS

00:17:28 - Group Sex

00:23:18 - Beverly Hills (and Century City)

00:27:17 - World Up My Ass

00:33:44 - Back Against the Wall

00:35:35 - Paid Vacation & Circle Jerks' Writing Dynamic

00:37:15 - Decline of Western Civilization

00:43:24 - Earliest Circle Jerks Tours, John Belushi & Negative

Approach

00:46:07 - Negative Approach

00:50:13 - Paradigm Shifting Punk Bands Over Time

00:54:01 - WILD IN THE STREETS

01:02:49 - Stars and Stripes (hard pit)

01:05:02 - Touring On Wild In The Streets

01:09:47 - Keith's Thoughts on Warped Tour

01:15:32 - Keith's Thoughts on Touring Europe

01:16:58 - Touring In Europe Today For Circle Jerks

01:18:42 - Dissecting Golden Shower, Wonderful & VI

01:23:55 - Repo Man

01:30:38 - LAPD At War With Punks

01:36:45 - Circle Jerks Break Up in 1989

01:39:52 - GTA V Music

01:46:05 - FLAG (and the legal ramifications)

01:57:22 - Rapid Fire: Keith Morris Edition

No need to have a nervous breakdown, we've finally got the legendary KEITH MORRIS on HardLore, one of the founding fathers of hardcore music.

In part 1 of this incredible 4+ hour two-part special, we start at the beginning with Keith's introduction to music (he's a big fan) and deep dive into starting Panic (eventually known as BLACK FLAG) with Greg Ginn, what early punk rock was like in the South Bay and greater LA area in the late 70s, how Black Flag finally became Black Flag, recruiting the rest of the band, the incomparable artistic contributions of the great Raymond Pettibon, recording NERVOUS BREAKDOWN (and re-recording most of it with Circle Jerks), why and how he ultimately left the band, and so much more...

Thanks to my incredible co-host Anthony Anzaldo of Ceremony for the fantastic assist and great questions/insight as always.

Next week we pick up right where we leave off, with the beginning of the Circle Jerks... Grab a copy of Circle Jerks - Revenge of Nervous Breakdown, their first recording in 30 years, while you still can: https://linktr.ee/circlejerks

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

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Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:47 - Keith Morris

00:08:46 - Keith Loves Music

00:19:53 - Meeting Greg Ginn (Keith Loves Music Cont.)

00:30:40 - Panic Forming (Black Flag) and the MANY Early Members

00:43:46 - Becoming a REAL Band (Chuck The Duke)

00:46:59 - Robo, Cocaine & Punk Developing in Real Time

00:58:29 - Black Flag Becoming Black Flag

01:05:05 - Nervous Breakdown

01:09:35 - Keith Leaving Black Flag

01:12:12 - The Public's Response to Nervous Breakdown

01:27:44 - The Black Flag Bars

01:31:55 - SST & It's Residual Effects

01:36:17 - Keith Leaving Black Flag

01:39:59 - Circle Jerks Re-Recording Nervous Breakdown

01:46:40 - Why Depression, Nervous Breakdown, Fix Me & Revenge?

01:49:20 - Henry Rollins Black Flag

01:53:14 - Everything Went Black, The Germs, Darby Crash

01:57:03 - Have Keith & Greg Reconnected?

This week we’re joined by Andrew Kline, co-founder and guitarist of one of California hardcore’s most important bands: STRIFE.

We dive into the many fateful encounters that had to happen for the band to start in the beginning of the 90s to usher in a new era and new generation of straight edge hardcore. Strife, along with Earth Crisis and Snapcase were eventually considered the original “Victory Records Trinity” and set the standard for what a hardcore band could do worldwide in the mid to late 90s.

We break down their entire discography, including their breakout debut One Truth and their decade-defining masterpiece In This Defiance — all the way up until their breakup and eventual return (and misunderstood statement about no longer being straight edge) in the 2000s.

An incredibly insightful and fascinating window into what is now an underrated band, but one that has seen what the top of the mountain of hardcore music has to offer.

Check out HardLore's very own ⁠PLAN X RECORDS!⁠ A brand new home for straight edge hardcore. Debut release announced on Edge Day.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, Mixed & Edited by ⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠

Title sequence by ⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:49 - Andrew Kline

00:09:34 - Finding Hardcore

00:19:57 - The Long, Beautiful Story of How Strife Begins

00:32:13 - xStand As Onex

00:42:20 - The Early Days of Strife

00:53:51 - Plan X Records & Guilty Party

00:56:25 - Victory Records & The Only The Strong Compilation

01:03:22 - ONE TRUTH

01:09:46 - Touring Relentlessly & Sick of it All

01:31:01 - Strife As A Career & The Birth of Today's Hardcore Economy

01:45:19 - Gearing Up for In This Defiance & Meeting Sepultura

01:56:41 - IN THIS DEFIANCE

02:01:09 - Blistered

02:15:09 - Strife Breaking Edge and Breaking Hearts

02:25:27 - In This Defiance & It's Impact on Victory

02:33:34 - Touring Killed Strife

02:40:02 - Bringing Back Strife (Angermeans)

03:03:11 - Rapid Fire: Strife Edition

03:08:17 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

Hello welcome! Decided to take a minute this week to reflect on the last 4 and a half years of the show and do a little deep dive into what are, in my opinion, our top 10 most important episodes. "Important" meaning episodes that we talked about often that felt like game changers in different ways: Creative growth, audience growth, and personal growth.

I'm sure many will feel different and have their own picks, but these are the ones that I believe Bo and I would both would have picked. Hope you enjoy this unique solo deep dive before we post back to back to back episodes of pure HEAT coming up.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

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Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠⁠

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00:00 - Start

02:20 - Honorable Mentions

16:57 - Number 10: HauntLore Salem (With Kurt Ballou)

19:53 - Number 9: Justice Tripp (Trapped Under Ice/Angel Du$t)

23:09 - Number 8: Bryan Garris (Knocked Loose)

26:16 - Number 7: Fast Food Tier List

30:39 - Number 6: Vinnie Stigma (Agnostic Front)

34:49 - Number 5: HardLore Jeopardy

39:00 - Number 4: Jamey Jasta (Hatebreed)

41:07 - Number 3: Parris Mayhew (Cro-Mags)

46:21 - Number 2: Davey Havok (AFI)

51:57 - Number 1...

Let the chaos begin... In March of this year, Bo and I had an idea to let the viewers decide on our next bracket episode (since you're never happy with the bands we pick) and this was the result. The top 64 bands, as voted by YOU! Every matchup was random in our first ever truly unpredictable live tournament challenge.

I'm joined by Joey Chiaramonte from Koyo, alongside Alec Faber & Taylor Young from Twitching Tongues/God's Hate to determine a winner in real time in our first ever in-person bracket episode.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.

Shot, edited and mixed by ⁠⁠⁠Steven Grise⁠⁠⁠

Title sequence by ⁠⁠⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠⁠⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:01:51 - The Chaos Begins...

00:02:37 - Deftones vs. Ween

00:04:06 - Snapcase vs. Gallows

00:05:59 - Haywire vs. Title Fight

00:07:01 - Converge vs. Fall Out Boy

00:08:09 - Drug Church vs. Blacklisted

00:09:14 - Black Breath vs. Propaghandi

00:10:48 - Arkangel vs. Bolt Thrower

00:12:09 - The Acacia Strain vs. Poison Idea

00:13:13 - 7A7P vs. Mastodon

00:14:07 - The Cure vs. Paramore

00:16:11 - ETID vs. Meshuggah

00:19:38 - Section 8 vs. Bad Religion

00:20:41 - Power Trip vs. Neglect

00:22:22 - AFI vs. Death

00:24:26 - Lifetime vs. Jimmy Eat World

00:25:21 - Refused vs. Weird Al Yankovich

00:27:10 - Steeley Dan vs. Candlemass

00:28:15 - The Animals vs. On Broken Wings

00:30:35 - Alice In Chains vs. Eighteen Visions

00:32:16 - Alkaline Trio vs. Primus

00:34:13 - Tool vs. Poison The Well

00:36:29 - Candiria vs. Fight Everyone

00:37:24 - Skinless vs. The Rival Mob

00:39:11 - Mindsnare vs. Oasis

00:40:10 - Thrice vs. NOFX

00:41:35 - Rush vs. Hum

00:43:19 - Dillinger Escape Plan vs. Shai Hulud

00:43:26 - 1975 vs. The Smiths

00:45:19 - Mills Vintage vs. Timeless Coffee

00:47:24 - Tragedy vs. Neurosis

00:48:36 - The Beatles vs. 108

00:49:24 - Thin Lizzy vs. Botch

00:50:31 - Glassjaw vs. Nile

00:53:30 - Ween vs. Snapcase

00:54:03 - Title Fight vs. Converge

00:55:35 - Black Breath vs. Blacklisted

00:57:55 - Bolt Thrower vs. Poison Idea

01:01:13 - Mastodon vs. The Cure

01:01:25 - ETID vs. Bad Religion

01:02:32 - Neglect vs. AFI

01:03:17 - Jimmy Eat World vs. Weird Al

01:04:06 - Candlemass vs. The Animals

01:04:52 - Alice in Chains vs. Primus

01:06:12 - Tool vs. Candiria

01:07:11 - NOFX vs. Hum

01:07:27 - Dillinger Escape Plan vs. The Smiths

01:07:33 - Neurosis vs. The Beatles

01:08:39 - Glassjaw vs. Thin Lizzy

01:09:44 - Ween vs. Converge

01:10:06 - Black Breath vs. Poison Idea

01:10:30 - The Cure vs. Bad Religion

01:11:25 - AFI vs. Jimmy Eat World

01:15:12 - Candlemass vs. Alice in Chains

01:16:23 - Candiria vs. Oasis

01:18:29 - Hum vs. The Smiths

01:19:54 - Neurosis vs. Thin Lizzy

01:20:52 - Converge vs. Poison Idea

01:22:17 - The Cure vs. AFI

01:23:46 - Candlemass vs. Oasis

01:26:27 - The Smiths vs. Neurosis

01:30:45 - Converge vs. AFI

01:32:03 - Oasis vs.The Smiths

01:32:26 - FINALS

This week we're joined by vocalist Ross Farrar & guitarist Anthony Anzaldo of the great CEREMONY...

From childhood friends to lifelong bandmates, we learn all about their individual introductions to punk and hardcore music and how that eventually lead to the fateful formation of now legendary bay area hardcore band, Ceremony.

From the aggressive hardcore origins of their demo, first 7", and first 2 LPs, to their first big evolution and breakout Rohnert Park, all the way to their newest (and possibly best) album Tell Me Your Dream, we discuss everything in between, and the many "Gauntlets" in between that got us here.

A thoroughly fun, fascinating inside look at what is truly one of the defining underground bands of the last 20+ years. Enjoy this monumental 3 hour chat.

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy

Edited by ⁠Steven Grise⁠

Title sequence by ⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠

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00:00:00 - Start

00:02:00 - CEREMONY

00:04:52 - Rohnert Park, California

00:12:46 - Ross & Anthony's First Bands (Hammer Time)

00:17:31 - The Origin of Ceremony

00:28:39 - RUINED 7"

00:43:17 - VIOLENCE VIOLENCE

01:01:14 - Pardon This Interruption...

01:03:27 - SCARED PEOPLE EP, Signing to Bridge Nine

01:12:28 - STILL NOTHING MOVES YOU

01:23:15 - ROHNERT PARK

01:38:39 - Rohnert Park Live at the Hollywood Palladium

01:46:14 - Signing to Matador

01:50:43 - The List of Every Ceremony Show Ever

01:53:02 - ZOO

02:10:08 - THE L-SHAPED MAN

02:14:58 - Ross Goes Back To School

02:19:43 - Reception To L-Shaped Man

02:30:21 - Relapse Records & IN THE SPIRIT WORLD NOW

02:39:18 - How Ceremony Handled 2020, Almost Breaking Up

02:43:16 - TELL ME YOUR DREAM (CEREMONY'S BEST RECORD?)

02:58:01 - Misconceptions of Ceremony

03:05:00 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

This is easily one of the best conversations to ever happen on this show.

We stopped by Trust Records HQ for this incredible chat the great Sammy Siegler, one of hardcore's most prolific drummers to ever grace the throne.

We dive into Sammy's origin as the Godfather of Open Handed Lefty drummers in hardcore, his brief stint in Gorilla Biscuits, joining Side By Side at 11-12 years old, the Project X 7", joining Youth of Today as a longtime fan of the band, ALL things Judge, Chung King and Bringin' It Down and his later work in CIV, Rival Schools, Glassjaw and somehow Limp Bizkit of all things.

We're appropriately joined by my main man Mike Cesario of Twitching Tongues, Disgrace, Pity Sex, Forced Order and more to round out this mini panel of unique drummers.

Thanks to Sammy for joining us and sharing so much lore about so many great bands and records. Enjoy!!!

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HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy

Edited by Steven Grise

Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf

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00:00:00 - Start

00:03:27 - Discovering Hardcore & Drumming in '80s NYC

00:11:14 - Finding Straight Edge

00:18:11 - GORILLA BISCUITS

00:23:14 - SIDE BY SIDE

00:33:23 - You're Only Young Once

00:38:46 - The Spirit of 1988

00:43:51 - The Way It Is Compilation / Side By Side Reunion

00:47:17 - Pardon This Interruption...

00:50:14 - PROJECT X

00:58:24 - YOUTH OF TODAY

01:02:39 - We're Not In This Alone

01:13:58 - Youth Crew

01:19:41 - We're Not In This Alone Tour

01:27:27 - Youth of Today Breaking Up

01:28:44 - JUDGE

01:33:01 - The Earliest Version of "Metallic Hardcore"

01:38:51 - Chung King Can Suck It

01:47:16 - Bringin' It Down, There Will Be Quiet, The End of Judge

01:52:12 - Judge Covering Led Zeppelin

01:58:05 - Sammy's First Heartbreaking Edgebreak

02:03:39 - Disengage

02:07:53 - Breaking Edge & SHELTER

02:23:41 - GLASSJAW

02:32:08 - LIMP BIZKIT??? (and RIVAL SCHOOLS)

02:43:26 - The Knicks

02:45:19 - Moshing

02:47:59 - Sammy's Unexpected Influences

02:50:11 - What Recording Represents Sammy the Most?

02:55:44 - Top 4 Hardcore Records

02:59:05 - DRUM TALK

Rest in peace to the universally beloved Andy "The Butcher" Williams of Every Time I Die, Atomic Rule and All Elite Wrestling. When it comes to leading by example, Andy was THE ultimate example to follow from the moment you met him. A beacon of kindness, the benchmark of cool, and an unbreakable pillar of love and support to everyone in his life. To know Andy was to love Andy, but more importantly, to know Andy was to feel loved by Andy.

Andy was our second ever guest on HardLore, and technically our 3rd ever recorded episode. In his honor, we've upscaled this original episode to 4K to preserve this important conversation in the highest possible quality. We will love and miss Andy forever and I can't wait to hear the band that he and Bo will surely be working on. Goodbye my friend.

Originally aired May 11th, 2022:

"Colin and Bo welcome Andy Williams to the show to recount some of his favorite tour stories, from his early days touring with Buried Alive, his long tenure with Every Time I Die, and how he went on to be able to balance his music career with wrestling full time for AEW as half of The Butcher and The Blade."

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00:00:00 - Remembering Andy Williams

00:05:29 - 10 Bell Salute

00:05:58 - HardLore Episode 4: Andy Williams

00:07:01 - The Parallels Between Music & Wrestling

00:11:53 - What Set Andy on a New Path

00:17:13 - Andy & Buried Alive

00:22:54 - Andy's Music Taste Refining

00:30:08 - Andy Asks the Worst Places We've Stayed On Tour

00:35:22 - ETID's 1 Star Hotel Gimmick

00:39:19 - Andy Tour Stories

00:48:04 - Balancing AEW & ETID

00:52:32 - Andy Loves Little Gear Now, Tour Stories Cont.

00:58:29 - Wrestlers and Their Musical Interests

01:03:27 - Wrestling Is Songwriting

01:11:16 - ETID Setting the Example For Touring Bands

01:16:45 - Andy on the End of ETID