If you know Robert Barron, Bishop of the Diocese of Rochester, MN or Ben Shapiro, of the Daily Wire, please send them this podcast after you listen to it. We would love to have either or both of them join us to explain themselves. We were appalled to listen to Bishop Barron elevate the Second Vatican Council over the words of Christ himself and exclaim that salvation, and therefore eternal life, are achievable through the exercise of human conscience. Nothing could possibly be less Biblical.