Matt Johnson is the author of How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-Enlightenment. His writing has appeared in Quillette, the Bulwark, the Daily Beast, and many other places. Follow Matt on X @mattjj89.

In this conversation, we discuss the current state of liberalism, the craziness on the left vs. the craziness of the right, the fall of the IDW, the gaslighting done by the establishment media, and other topics. We also discuss the ongoing influence of Christopher Hitchens and whether or not it's useful to ask, "What would Hitchens think about this?"

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