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Check out this post by Justin Pagano at Klaviyo for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is Jesse Webb, CISO and svp information systems, Avalon Healthcare Solutions.

In this episode:

• Align the incentives
• The feature and enforcement disconnect
• Putting the right people in the right place
• A need for transparency

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