Last week we talked about Hasan. Now we talk to him — about the Democrats, protein, and not giving in to nihilism.

This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Amina Al-Sadi with help from Miranda Kennedy, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram.

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Political commentator Hasan Piker talks to Sean Rameswaram in an interview for Today, Explained.

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