Samuel Moyn, author of "Humane: How the United States Abandoned Peace and Reinvented War," joins Dan and Kelley to talk about how well-intentioned efforts over the last 75 years to make war "less lethal" has legitimized and made war more palatable, therefore protracting conflict rather than shutting it down. He talks about criticisms of his thesis by anti-war advocates and liberal interventionists alike. In the first segment, our hosts discuss the defense budget bonanza, an annual Washington ritual in which common sense and taxpayer dollars are sacrificed on the altar of the military-industrial congressional complex!

More from Samuel Moyn: 

America Is Giving the World a Disturbing New Kind of War - New York Times -- Sept. 3

"The False and Dangerous Promise of More Human Wars" (Review) -- Robert Kaplan, New York Times. 

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