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Having Honest Dialogue: Jimmy Cunningham, Arkansas
Recorded in Little Rock, Arkansas, 2019
This story was gathered in conjunction with the Museum on Main Street program at the Smithsonian Institution and its "Stories from Main Street" initiative. The project is intended to capture Americans' impressions and stories about their neighborhoods, local waterways, personal memories, cultural traditions, work histories, and thoughts about American democracy. Part of the "Voices and Votes: Democracy in America" collection.
Jimmy Cunningham (00:00): So, one of the most important things I think that citizens need to do, one of the things that I think is simple but complex, and I say that coming from a place in the Delta with a lot of simplicity, with a lot of complexity, one of the things that we owe each other is to have honest dialogue.
Jimmy Cunningham (00:33): I think in my community, there are systems in place. There are political orders and constructs that exist that people sort of have been conditioned to accept. And each generation sort of passes some of this along to the next generation. But what I find very often is that people fear having honest conversations around issues of race, around issues of religion, around issues of gender, issues of class.
Jimmy Cunningham (01:29): People would rather be very quiet, polite, and civil in just maintaining what a poet once characterized, Paul Laurence Dunbar, said, "We wear the mask that grins and lies. It hides our cheeks and shades our eyes. This debt we pay to human guile with torn and bleeding hearts, we smile and mouth with myriad subtleties."
Jimmy Cunningham (02:07): We don't have enough honest conversations where we create spaces where we can talk and be real enough with each other to begin to whittle away at some of the stereotypes, some of the power arrangements, some of the systems that are so concretely in place.
Jimmy Cunningham (02:31): Many of those kinds of big societal issues can begin to diminish with real courageous dialogue where people sit down and they understand why there is anger, angst, fear, just a variety of inhibiting factors in a community that keep systems in place and power elements in place, but don't promote nearly as much change over time.
Jimmy Cunningham (03:08): The great thing about the Delta is that it maintains many traditions. People speak and they wave and they embrace and they hug and they talk. But at the same time, there are age old issues related to race and sex and class that no matter what the iteration is over decades, they seem to stay fixed in place. And I think the simple act of honest dialogue within the citizenry can make a huge difference for some of the bigger issues that we face in our democracy.
Asset ID: 2021.04.01.a
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By The PealeRecorded in Little Rock, Arkansas, 2019
This story was gathered in conjunction with the Museum on Main Street program at the Smithsonian Institution and its "Stories from Main Street" initiative. The project is intended to capture Americans' impressions and stories about their neighborhoods, local waterways, personal memories, cultural traditions, work histories, and thoughts about American democracy. Part of the "Voices and Votes: Democracy in America" collection.
Jimmy Cunningham (00:00): So, one of the most important things I think that citizens need to do, one of the things that I think is simple but complex, and I say that coming from a place in the Delta with a lot of simplicity, with a lot of complexity, one of the things that we owe each other is to have honest dialogue.
Jimmy Cunningham (00:33): I think in my community, there are systems in place. There are political orders and constructs that exist that people sort of have been conditioned to accept. And each generation sort of passes some of this along to the next generation. But what I find very often is that people fear having honest conversations around issues of race, around issues of religion, around issues of gender, issues of class.
Jimmy Cunningham (01:29): People would rather be very quiet, polite, and civil in just maintaining what a poet once characterized, Paul Laurence Dunbar, said, "We wear the mask that grins and lies. It hides our cheeks and shades our eyes. This debt we pay to human guile with torn and bleeding hearts, we smile and mouth with myriad subtleties."
Jimmy Cunningham (02:07): We don't have enough honest conversations where we create spaces where we can talk and be real enough with each other to begin to whittle away at some of the stereotypes, some of the power arrangements, some of the systems that are so concretely in place.
Jimmy Cunningham (02:31): Many of those kinds of big societal issues can begin to diminish with real courageous dialogue where people sit down and they understand why there is anger, angst, fear, just a variety of inhibiting factors in a community that keep systems in place and power elements in place, but don't promote nearly as much change over time.
Jimmy Cunningham (03:08): The great thing about the Delta is that it maintains many traditions. People speak and they wave and they embrace and they hug and they talk. But at the same time, there are age old issues related to race and sex and class that no matter what the iteration is over decades, they seem to stay fixed in place. And I think the simple act of honest dialogue within the citizenry can make a huge difference for some of the bigger issues that we face in our democracy.
Asset ID: 2021.04.01.a