This is the first part of a discussion between John and Pastor Hayne Schurz about the difference between what society perceives as “spiritual” and what the Bible describes, especially the example that Jesus set while He was on the earth. The content is challenging but very encouraging to all of us who have struggled at times feeling like a failure. Visit theglobalseedcompany.com to learn more about Pastor Hayne and the ministry he and his family are a part of around the world!