Hazel White and Mike Press from OpenChange in Scotland join me on the show this week, and we dig  a little deeper into what myself and sarah drummond covered about the changes in the scottish design landscape and what trigged this. We speak more about a walkabout, service safari or observational masterclass that the guys gave at service design days in barcelona, and what’s so good about these types of workshop activities.

Now before we jump into the interview, i wanted to mention we have a shelf load of books to give-away as thank you to all of our listeners in 2018. To be in with a chance of winning the books, you need to be on our newsletter which you can subscribe on our website at thisishcd.com - we’ve got books from O’Reilly Media  in NYC one of our biggest supporters, as well as exclusive TIHCD discounts for Rosenfeld Media books and also have 2 books from the guys at Smashing Magazine. We also have signed copies of Andy Polaines Service Design book and Gerry McGovern’s latest book, Top Tasks.

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