Only one HBCU made the grade in U.S. News and World Report's overall rankings of top colleges and universities this week. But with metrics like SAT scores and high school class standings, some college leaders and education officials question the validity of the lists, despite their direct impact on how schools are managed and perceived. 

We hear from Dr. Helene Gayle, president at Spelman College, which was ranked 51st in national liberal arts colleges and landed the top spot on their list of HBCUs. She discusses how schools could be measured more equitably, including social mobility and student progress within college, and explains why such rankings are still useful for education administrators like herself.