Out Of The System

He Met His Mom’s Killer… to Save His Life


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He sat inches from the man who murdered his mother—and stayed calm enough to listen. In this episode of Out of the System, Dean Smith shares how forgiveness, grief, and daily inner work transformed revenge fantasies into freedom, and why making forgiveness a priority reshaped his life, his family, and his coaching.


He boarded a plane to meet the man who murdered his mother—not with rage, but with forgiveness. In this episode of the Out of the System Podcast,  Dean Smith shares the story behind that day and the choice that altered the course of his life. Sitting face-to-face with his mother’s killer, he had already done the inner work that kept the moment from turning violent. Dean explores how forgiveness unfolded over time—rooted in early influences, tested in adulthood, and built through imperfect but intentional practices. He reframes forgiveness as a daily way of living, not a single decision, and reveals how it transformed how he loves, leads, and coaches others. The conversation closes with a moment few believe is possible: a family once consumed by anger choosing forgiveness—and showing what it looks like when it’s lived out in the real world.


Dean Eric Smith is a coach, speaker, and author. His work is shaped by a life-changing journey: after his mother was murdered when he was 12, Dean spent years wrestling with anger, grief, and the weight of unforgiveness—until he committed to making forgiveness a priority.

He is the author of ‘The Forgiveness Habit’ and was featured in the documentary ‘Live to Forgive’, which follows his decision to meet the man who killed his mother and pursue a path of freedom, healing, and purpose.

Today, Dean helps leaders and couples build healthier mindsets, stronger relationships, and greater presence through intentional daily practices.


Dean Smith

Website: http://deansmithcoaching.com

Instagram: http://instagram.com/dean_eric_smith

YouTube: http://youtube.com/@livetoforgivetoday


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