North Carolina’s first state constitution in 1776 mandated “That a school or schools shall be established by the Legislature, for the convenient instruction of youth, . . . and all useful learning shall be duly encouraged, and promoted, in one or more universities.” In 1789, the University of North Carolina was established at Chapel Hill, and the first class of students arrived six years later. Today, the UNC System has 16 universities and the N.C. School of Science and Mathematics. In 2017, over 185,000 undergraduates and nearly 47,000 graduate students are enrolled.  Kari Travis, Associate Editor of Carolina Journal, joins Terry and Kory to discuss the future of the UNC System under the leadership of system president Margaret Spellings and Board of Governors chairman Harry Smith.