<p>Josh Shulman, Head of Marketing at N.Rich and Rowan Collins, Independent consultant and ex-Head of SEO at Mzuri Group debate how SEO should be applied and measured in 2025. </p>

Josh Shulman, Head of Marketing at N.Rich and Rowan Collins, Independent consultant and ex-Head of SEO at Mzuri Group debate how SEO should be applied and measured in 2025.

<p>Josh Shulman, Head of Marketing at N.Rich and Rowan Collins, Independent consultant and ex-Head of SEO at Mzuri Group debate how SEO should be applied and measured in 2025.&nbsp;</p>

Head of Marketing vs Senior SEO

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Head of Marketing vs Senior SEO

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