Rupert and Shradha are joined by Badr Ait Ahmed, a seasoned expert in workforce planning and people analytics. The conversation explores the critical differences between headcount planning and workforce planning, emphasizing the need for a multidisciplinary approach that includes finance, HR, and other departments. Badr shares insights on the importance of embedding workforce planning into business processes, the risks of neglecting non-direct workforce planning, and the challenges of quantifying the cost of attrition. He also discusses his journey from corporate life to entrepreneurship, highlighting the value of transformation and the necessity of iteration over perfection in the workforce planning process.