What if a prison operated like a bridge back to community rather than a dead end? We sit down with Director Annette Chambers-Smith of the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction to explore how values, data, and everyday relationships are reshaping safety, reentry, and long-term well-being.

We start with the bigger picture: 98% of people come home. That reality shifts the mission toward healing, education, and practical preparation.  Director Chambers-Smith shares four core values—and shows how correction officers, teachers, volunteers, and families become the frontline of change. 

Then we go deep on mental health. With high rates of behavioral health and substance use needs among those incarcerated—and elevated PTSD and suicide risk among staff—the department is investing in employee support teams, nonprofit partnerships, and stigma-busting tools.  The director also leads a national push beyond recidivism, tracking 16 determinants of post-release success.

We close this conversation with candid lessons from the director's own reset: sleep hygiene, protected time, and professional help that turned burnout into sustainable leadership. It’s a grounded, hopeful look at rehabilitation powered by data, partnerships, and human connection.

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