Trini and Luis sit down for a long, rich discussion with Nicole Rojas and Luis Ruan. Doing healing work in their communities for 20 and 30 years, respectively, they each transform trauma and create restorative justice.

Music is from "Civilization." Poem written and read by Luis J. Rodriguez. Music by Italian Hip Hop artist Flycat from his CD "Una domanda alla risposta" (A Question to an Answer).