We delve into the healing of scar tissue in the pelvic floor with Ellen Heed, PhD! We had first heard of Ellen during our first guest interview with Erin about baby wearing. After hearing about the extraordinary process Erin had experienced with Ellen, we knew we had to get her on the podcast so she could explain exactly how she worked on Erin because of the effects on Erin's second pregnancy and labor!

This area of naturally healing post partum is not talked about enough and in a world where we are striving to give power back to the pregnant and postnatal mother, we believe that Ellen's contributions towards scar tissue remediation from trauma are invaluable!

So listen in to discover another way of looking at healing!

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0:15: Introduction of our amazing guest, Ellen Heed!

1:18: We go into Ellen’s background 

3:00: Ellen brushes on how injury for mom can affect the baby

4:50: Ellen talks about how she got into pelvic floor work

10:25: Ellen explains Sexological Bodywork

13:19: Ellen talks about scar tissue mapping from the labor and birth process

15:00: Ellen explains what Somatic Psychology is

16:50: Dr. Toxil asks about Ellen’s process of combing the emotional and physical experience

17:55: Ellen’s talks about the importance of preparing a client mentally for treatment and client feedback

19:00: Ellen talks about Somatic Recall (what it is!) and how it relates to treating scar tissue

21:15: Ellen talks about writing her dissertation and all the healing modalities she delved into and how she formed the connection of the emotional and physical body

23:20: Discussion on the mid-body-spirit connection 

24:20: Ellen talks about the importance of touch in her work

25:20: Ellen’s discusses the importance of women understanding their reproductive system 

26:40: Ellen describes how pelvic floor issues can affect the nerves of the mother

28:47: Ellen connects the emotional component to the pelvic floor

29:22: Dr. Chris asks about how this looks in a pregnancy

31:20: Ellen talks about the concept of “Birth Rehearsal” 

34:27: Dr. Toxil asks if there may be a connection with pain and scar tissue and postpartum depression

36:40: Ellen talks about empowerment as a part of postpartum care

37:13: Ellen talks about women she sees for prenatal care and post natal care

39:58: Ellen talks about how you can find someone who practices like her (STREAM providers) in other areas of the world 

42:17: Ellen talks about the expected amount and time of treatment if someone was to travel to get care

44:30: Ellen mentions the nutritional aspect of healing

45:00: Ellen discusses the curriculum she created for people interested in practicing this care

47:45: Ellen discusses the Whole Health Project which will be for lay people and why health should be individualized

52:22: Ellen gives her piece of advice for new moms

55:30: Wrap up with Ellen

57:40: Dr. Toxil mentions the mind-body connection and the effect on the mom-baby connection

59:44: Dr. Chris talks about addressing physical, emotional, and toxic stress 

1:03:48: Episode wrap up

How to contact Ellen:  https://ellenheed.com/