Join host Chris Himel as he sits down with Jim Ohneck, the founder of Epoch Lasers, to uncover the truth about red and near-infrared light therapy. From the cellular science of ATP production to real-world use cases for pain relief, injury recovery, and even post-IV treatment care—this episode is packed with expert insights, clinic success stories, and practical takeaways for providers and patients alike. Whether you're a clinic owner, health entrepreneur, or biohacking enthusiast, you’ll walk away with a clearer understanding of what makes this technology a game-changer.