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Summary
In this episode, Ollie is joined by Peak Health's Education Director, Dr Caroline Hart, to explore a question facing the growing health coaching profession: how can we establish consistent standards while keeping health coaching truly person-centred?
Their conversation is prompted by a recently published paper from New Zealand, which reviews 76 health coaching studies conducted between 2013 and 2023. The findings highlight considerable variation in how health coaching is delivered, who provides it and what training practitioners receive. Perhaps more importantly, the research reveals how inconsistently these details are reported, making it difficult to compare approaches and understand what really works.
Ollie and Caroline reflect on what this means for the development of health coaching in the UK. They discuss the importance of recognised qualifications, competency frameworks and external quality assurance, while considering the progress already made through NHS England's Health and Wellbeing Coach Workforce Development Framework.
But standardisation brings its own challenges. If health coaching is fundamentally about responding to individual needs, how do we establish shared principles without becoming overly prescriptive? Caroline explores the importance of maintaining individual agency and ensuring that consistency never comes at the expense of flexibility and personalisation.
The conversation also draws on Ollie's recent experience at an Individual Placement and Support conference, where he was struck by the role that fidelity to a clearly defined model has played in improving outcomes for people experiencing serious mental health difficulties. Could health coaching learn something from this more established approach?
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Further Reading
The research paper discussed by Ollie and Caroline in this episode, can be found in the Journal of Primary Health Care. Implementing Health Coaching for People With Long-Term Conditions, Caroline Stretton, Antonia Rosedale, Angela C. Davenport, Julie Pryor. https://connectsci.au/hc/article/doi/10.1071/HC26082/278819/Implementing-health-coaching-for-people-with-long
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In this episode, Ollie is joined by Nick Downham, an expert in NHS system change, quality improvement and leadership, to explore why meaningful change in healthcare can be so difficult to achieve, and what it might take to create a more proactive, preventative and person-centred system.
Drawing on Nick's extensive experience working across the NHS, the conversation explores his recent research paper, Of Clocks and Clouds: Leading System-Level Change in Health and Care. The research examines different approaches to leading change across complex healthcare systems, questioning whether traditional methods of management and improvement are always suited to the challenges the NHS faces.
A central theme is the distinction between 'clocks' and 'clouds'. While clock-like approaches rely on structure, predictability, targets and control, cloud-like approaches recognise the complexity of human systems, where relationships, trust and adaptability play a crucial role.
The discussion also explores some of the contradictions within healthcare reform. Despite ambitions to shift towards prevention and community-based care, existing incentives, performance measures and financial pressures can continue to reinforce reactive models of healthcare.
They reflect on what effective system leadership looks like, from building relationships and working across organisational boundaries to sharing power and creating the conditions for collaboration. Rather than simply making existing services more efficient, the challenge is to question whether healthcare systems are doing the right things in the first place.
Takeaways
Traditional management approaches based on targets, control and predictability are not always suited to complex human systems.
The 'clocks and clouds' concept highlights the need to balance structured improvement with relationships, adaptability and trust.
Healthcare systems can unintentionally reinforce reactive care, even when their stated ambition is to prioritise prevention.
Poverty, inequality and wider social circumstances have a significant influence on health outcomes and demand for healthcare.
Effective system leadership involves creating the conditions for change rather than simply directing people towards predetermined solutions.
Trust, collaboration and strong relationships are essential when working across organisational and professional boundaries.
Co-production requires professionals and leaders to share power and recognise the expertise of patients and communities.
Focusing on individual organisational targets can sometimes undermine outcomes across the wider healthcare system.
Healthcare interactions can unintentionally create dependency when people are treated as passive recipients rather than active partners.
Building people's confidence, agency and ability to self-manage is an important part of moving towards more proactive and personalised care.
Embedding health coaching effectively requires support and understanding across whole teams and organisations, not just individual practitioners
Links and Resources
Of Clocks and Clouds: Leading System-Level Change in Health and Care (2026). Read Nick Downham's research paper, co-authored with Nicola Burgess and Emily Rowe: https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/id/eprint/242007/
Improving Quality in Healthcare: Questioning the Work for Effective Change. Explore Nick's book, co-authored with Murray Anderson-Wallace: https://www.sagepub.com/shop/buy-a-book/improving-quality-in-healthcare-1-274113
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In this episode, Ollie and Tim return to the studio to reflect on their recent AI and Health Coaching Roundtable, exploring what they learned, how their thinking has shifted and what the rapid development of artificial intelligence could mean for the future of health coaching.
Building on the discussion in Episode 36, they revisit insights from the expert panel, including the potential of smaller, more specialised AI models, the importance of trusted information and the distinction between knowing what to do and actually making meaningful behaviour changes. While AI offers exciting opportunities to improve access to information and support, the conversation raises an important question: can technology ever replicate the experience of being truly heard and understood by another person?
The conversation also turns to a major new review of mental health, which highlights the growing pressures facing younger generations and the importance of moving towards more personalised, needs-based support. Ollie and Tim explore the parallels with health coaching, particularly the shift away from focusing solely on diagnoses and symptoms towards understanding people's strengths, circumstances and ability to participate meaningfully in everyday life.
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Further Reading
During this episode, Ollie and Tim discuss the recently published Independent Review into Mental Health Conditions, ADHD and Autism, led by Professor Peter Fonagy.
You can read the review and its recommendations here: https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/independent-review-into-mental-health-conditions-adhd-and-autism
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In this episode, Ollie is joined by Holly Crosby, one of Peak Health Coaching’s most experienced associate trainers, to explore a career spanning counselling, health coaching, workplace wellbeing and training.
Holly begins by sharing her own experience of healthcare following the diagnosis of a rare pituitary tumour in her early twenties. She reflects on how little control she initially felt over decisions about her treatment, and how her relationship with healthcare has changed over time as she has become more confident in asking questions, expressing what matters to her and taking a more active role in her care.
The conversation then turns to Holly’s professional journey, from more than a decade working as a counsellor in bereavement, addiction and mental health, to discovering health coaching and eventually bringing coaching into workplace settings.
Ollie and Holly also tackle a question that comes up regularly in health coaching: where does coaching end and counselling begin? Holly reflects on the considerable overlap between the two, while describing counselling as often creating space to understand and process the past, and coaching as having a greater focus on the present and what someone wants their future to look like.
Throughout the conversation, they return to the power of listening. For people used to helping others, stepping back can feel uncomfortable. But health coaching can sometimes mean doing less rather than more: talking less, telling less and creating the space for another person to recognise their own strengths, choices and capacity for change.
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In this special episode of Health Coaching and Beyond, Peak Health Coaching brings together an expert panel to explore one of the biggest questions facing health and care right now: what role should artificial intelligence play in health coaching?
Ollie is joined by Dr Angus Perry, Dr Hussain Al-Zubaidi, Chloe Tetrault and Dr Rob Kemp, who bring very different perspectives on the opportunities, risks and ethical questions surrounding AI. From personalised support and greater access to information, to concerns around trust, dependency, misinformation and the loss of human connection, the discussion explores what AI might genuinely add to health coaching and where its limits may lie.
The panel considers how AI could support people with health information, goal setting and self-management, as well as how smaller, more specialised AI models could potentially offer safer and more tailored support. But they also explore what happens when technology moves into areas traditionally built on human relationships, empathy, trust and the ability to notice what is not being said.
A central question emerges throughout the conversation: if AI can increasingly imitate the language and techniques of a coach, does that make it coaching? The panel explores the difference between appearing to listen and genuinely being in a relationship with another person, and why health coaching may be about much more than simply providing the right information or asking the right questions.
While there are plenty of reasons for caution, the discussion is far from anti-AI. Instead, the panel considers how technology might take care of some of the more repetitive or informational tasks, creating more space for meaningful human conversations.
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Summary
In this episode, Ollie is joined by Holly Crosby, one of Peak Health Coaching’s most experienced associate trainers, to explore a career spanning counselling, health coaching, workplace wellbeing and training.
Holly begins by sharing her own experience of healthcare following the diagnosis of a rare pituitary tumour in her early twenties. She reflects on how little control she initially felt over decisions about her treatment, and how her relationship with healthcare has changed over time as she has become more confident in asking questions, expressing what matters to her and taking a more active role in her care.
The conversation then turns to Holly’s professional journey, from more than a decade working as a counsellor in bereavement, addiction and mental health, to discovering health coaching and eventually bringing coaching into workplace settings.
Ollie and Holly also tackle a question that comes up regularly in health coaching: where does coaching end and counselling begin? Holly reflects on the considerable overlap between the two, while describing counselling as often creating space to understand and process the past, and coaching as having a greater focus on the present and what someone wants their future to look like.
Throughout the conversation, they return to the power of listening. For people used to helping others, stepping back can feel uncomfortable. But health coaching can sometimes mean doing less rather than more: talking less, telling less and creating the space for another person to recognise their own strengths, choices and capacity for change.
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In this episode, Ollie and Tim come back together to explore what health coaching can offer across two very different but increasingly important areas: workplace wellbeing and the growing use of digital health tools.
Tim reflects on conversations from the NHS Occupational Health & Wellbeing Network annual meeting, where there was strong interest in how health coaching skills could help occupational health teams move further upstream. Rather than waiting until someone is struggling, off sick or preparing to return to work, they discuss the opportunity to involve people earlier and more actively in decisions about their own health and working lives.
The conversation widens into the role of workplace culture, leadership and psychological safety. Ollie and Tim reflect on why trust matters, how vulnerability from leaders can create space for others to speak openly, and why employees feeling able to ask for support or adaptations can be a sign of a healthy organisation rather than a problem to be managed.
They then turn to two recent studies exploring health coaching alongside digital support. Ollie shares findings from the Active Wait study, involving people waiting for hip and knee surgery with lower levels of patient activation.
A second feasibility study, looking at digital support for people living with frailty tells a similar story. While digital tools may offer huge potential, the human relationship can be the thing that helps people engage with them and translate information into meaningful action.
Takeaways
Active Wait: Feasibility of Health Coaching Targeting Patients With Low Activation Waiting for Total Hip or Total Knee Replacement - https://www.physiotherapyjournal.com/article/S0031-9406(26)00485-2/abstract
DIALOR: A Feasibility and Acceptability Study of a Digital Health Coaching Intervention for Older People With Frailty in Primary Care - https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40520-026-03499-w
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In this episode, Tim is joined by health and wellbeing coach, supervisor and facilitator Laura Williams to explore where a career in health coaching can lead.
Laura shares her journey from veterinary nursing and primary care into social prescribing, NHS health coaching, supervision and staff wellbeing. She reflects on what first drew her to coaching, particularly the realisation that even good advice does not always lead to meaningful change when it doesn’t fit into the realities of someone’s life.
The conversation explores the shift from telling people what to do towards creating the space for them to think, reflect and find their own way forward.
Laura talks about learning to move from being on “transmit and do” to “receive and be”, and why listening well is something coaches continue to practise throughout their careers. Laura also speaks openly about being made redundant from her NHS health coaching role and the uncertainty that followed.
She and Tim discuss changing NHS priorities, the value of building a varied career and the different ways coaching skills can continue to be used beyond a traditional health coaching role.
A key part of the episode focuses on supervision, what it offers, why it is different from line management or clinical supervision, and how it can support coaches with confidence, boundaries, reflection and the emotional demands of the work.
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Tim and Ollie are back together this week, chewing over one of the biggest recent developments for health coaching in the NHS - the newly refreshed NHS Health and Wellbeing Coaching Framework.
Three years on from the original framework, the pair explore what has changed, what feels particularly significant and what the update might tell us about where health coaching is heading.
For both Tim and Ollie, the refreshed framework feels like an important step forward. At a time of significant change across the NHS, it offers a welcome reaffirmation of the health and wellbeing coach role, while also recognising the growing potential for health coaching beyond primary care, including in secondary care, community services and the voluntary sector.
A big focus of the episode is supervision. The new framework places much greater emphasis on dedicated health coaching supervision, clearly distinguishing it from line management, clinical and safeguarding support. Tim and Ollie discuss why this matters, particularly for coaches starting out and navigating complex, emotional and sometimes challenging conversations.
They also look at career progression and the four tiers of health coaching practice. More broadly, they reflect on the role health coaching can play in shaping NHS culture - helping people build agency, improving conversations and moving away from the idea that professionals always need to have all the answers.
Takeaways
If you’d like to explore some of the topics discussed in this week’s episode, you can find more information below:
NHS Workforce Development Framework for Health and Wellbeing Coaches https://www.england.nhs.uk/long-read/workforce-development-framework-for-health-and-wellbeing-coaches-2/#7-competency-framework
The King’s Fund - Is the NHS ready for the AI-powered patient?https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/long-reads/nhs-ready-for-ai-powered-patient?utm
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In this episode, Ollie is joined by Frank, a former patient who, over more than a decade, has become a colleague, peer supporter and friend.
Frank was the first person Ollie had met with type 2 diabetes who had managed to come off insulin injections. His experience began a shared journey of learning about metabolic health, self-management, social prescribing and, importantly, the value of lived experience in helping others.
Frank reflects on his diagnosis with type 2 diabetes, his experiences of feeling intimidated by healthcare and the shame and stigma that can surround weight and long-term conditions. After years of trying different approaches, he began making significant changes to his health himself – at first without clinical support – eventually losing weight, reducing his medication and coming off insulin.
The conversation explores what happened next. As Frank became more active, cycling became not only a way of supporting his physical health but a source of friendship, community and purpose. What began with joining an adult cycling group eventually led him to establish his own, creating a supportive community where people look after one another and nobody gets left behind.
Ollie and Frank also reflect on how their relationship evolved from a traditional doctor-patient dynamic into a genuine partnership. Together, they went on to develop diabetes remission groups, roadshows and peer-led support, combining clinical knowledge with Frank’s ability to speak from experience and connect with people in a way that felt relatable, safe and free from judgement.
Throughout the episode, they explore the importance of creating healthcare environments where people feel able to ask questions, build knowledge and take a more active role in their own health. They also consider how peer support can help reach people who may feel excluded or intimidated by traditional healthcare, and why services work better when they are designed with, rather than simply for, the communities they serve.
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From the publisher's feed
This podcast champions the belief that Health Coaching can change the world for the better! Your hosts Drs Ollie Hart and Tim Williams, are UK Family Doctors (GPs), who learnt to health coach with…
They will chat about current affairs related to person centred care, and topics related to health coaching. Some episodes involve carefully selected guests, others conversation between the 2 of them. They aim to inspire your confidence and knowledge to embrace health coaching and all the benefits and joy it can bring.