In this episode I speak with the world famous in New Zealand, Sir Ashley Bloomfield about his approach to leading the country through the COVID pandemic. We're also joined by Prof. Stacy Wood who studies medical decision-making and the intersection between marketing, medicine and behaviour change. This is part of the University of Canterbury's MBA Masterclass series, so check that out for more informative discussions. Hope you enjoy this kōrero about how to drive change and what is in Sir Ashley and Prof. Stacy's future.