This week Serena and I are together for a rare in-person episode—the first since 2019! Recorded from my kitchen table, we share our spirals, then unpack finding the correct balance between using helpful tools to manage our anxiety and abandoning those and just enjoying life. This was a real high of an episode.

Healthy Hedonism (à la Phoebe Lapine): Happiness and Anxiety Management

Spiraling is an “optimistic” anxiety podcast. Co-hosts Katie Dalebout and Serena Wolf have candid conversations about how anxiety affects their lives and share how they’re managing it. In each episode, two anxious friends share what they’re spiraling about that week—from awkward interactions to business decisions and how to treat an unfortunate chest zit—followed by a deep-dive into different facets of anxiety and anxiety management. Filled with heart, insight, and an appropriate amount of profanity, this podcast is a love letter to anyone struggling with anxiety, reminding them that they are not alone, they are not weird or damaged, and they don’t owe anyone an explanation for their mental health.

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Healthy Hedonism (à la Phoebe Lapine): Happiness and Anxiety Management

Healthy Hedonism (à la Phoebe Lapine): Happiness and Anxiety Management