In this transparent episode, Jess swaps the interviewer role and is now in the hot seat! Jess is interviewed by her interdisciplinary talented friend Ronaé Fagon. During the episode, we get to hear Jess’ journey into the social movement sphere and the true intentions behind the podcast. Later on in the conversation, both discuss the importance of bringing integrity and self-awareness to our actions. Finally, Jess and Ronae end on a note of how it’s integral to hold uncomfortable conversations in our interpersonal relationships to move towards a healthier collective. 

References for the episode:

Dr Christina Cleveland  

God is a black woman

Emma Dabiri - What White People Can Do Next

Jess Mally's anti-racism course 

adrienne maree brown  

Jessica Dickson - IG post on white people having to do embodiment work to dismantle whiteness from their nervous systems

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