Three Vicars:  Christmas Part 2.   James Runcie talks to Michael Berkeley.   Ian Rose uses the metaphor of Caterpillars changing into butterflies.   Philip Noble tells us not to be downhearted.

MUSIC

1.   Dunedin Consort - "O thou that tellest good tidings" from Handel's Messiah.

2.   Alexander Armstrong - "In the bleak midwinter".

3.   Maddy Prior and the Carnival Band - "While shepherds watched".

4.   Clifford Hughes - "Child in the manger".