Heather and Ryan Swokowski interview Pastor Jonathan and Pastor Joel about their podcasts "What the Flock?" and the Music of Life Church Podcast... especially focused on Season 1 Episodes 9-10.

Heather and Ryan Swokowski Interview the PJ's (S1: Interview #3)

"What the Flock?" is a podcast where we discuss the source of damage done by the church. Unfortunately, people have been hurt so bad by the church that they don't want to go to church anymore. We're here to help you protect yourself from the abuse that has, and is currently happening. Perhaps, you may even learn how to go back to church and help others.

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Heather and Ryan Swokowski Interview the PJ's (S1: Interview #3)

Heather and Ryan Swokowski Interview the PJ's (S1: Interview #3)