Bronzeville native and preeminent Black pop artist Hebru Brantley joins visual artist and MacArthur Fellow Amanda Williams for a life-affirming conversation that spans the power of unbridled creativity, his inviting marketing strategy, and naturally, a little bit of Chicago vs. LA discourse. This program was recorded live at the Illinois Institute of Technology in May 2024.

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PHOTO: Amanda Williams and Hebru Brantley at the Illinois Institute of Technology at the Chicago Humanities Spring Festival in 2024.

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Podcast edited and mixed by Alisa Rosenthal

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