Jolene is joined by Mikaele for a conversation that pushes on a lot of strange buttons around the questions of transitions. I think this episode is really illustrative of what Sedgwick called the "universalizing" approach to sexual questions, as contrary the "minoritizing" approach. In other words: how do transitions affect everyone, not just those who would simply call themselves trans? It's a fun time, listen in for a discussion of contemporary and historic drag bans, locker room talk, athleticism, colonialism, and more. 

Here are some links we referenced: 

https://kapaemahu.com/

https://www.sfgate.com/hawaii/article/hawaii-glade-show-lounge-mahu-performers-17379492.php

The intro and outro music is by Lynn July. You can listen to more of her music at: https://tinytachyon.bandcamp.com/

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