Part 1 of Laurel's interview with director Erin Lee Carr whose "too-scary-to-stop-watching true crime documentaries include HBO's "Mommy Dearest and Dead," "I Love You, Now Die," and "At the Heart of Gold," about the Larry Nassar sex abuse scandal at the USA Gymnastics. Erin tells Laurel how she landed a tell-all interview with Gypsy Rose Blanchard just moments after pleading guilty to her mother's murder, and the therapist who argued in Michelle Carter's defense (the young woman who allegedly drove her boyfriend to suicide by text message) that men are inherently afraid of women. And yes, this is still officially a comedy podcast. 

EDITOR'S NOTE: This interview was recording in June 2020.

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