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We're very excited to release the next episode of our long-form podcast series on the history of Florida, where we will be analyzing the fifth chapter of the book Finding Florida by T. D. Allman, called "The West Florida Lone Star Butterfly Effect". (Butler description here)
We hope you enjoy listening to this series as much as we have enjoyed producing it for you! If you like the work we're doing, please like, comment, subscribe or just share us with your friends.
Anything you can do to support the show will help keep us keep the content flowing!
Our intro and outro theme music are from the song "Sardines" by the band Stella Starfox. You can find them on Apple Music and Spotify, and check out the full song here: https://youtu.be/9kF6N0oA0o4?si=wswiL3WoQ2HCM_AO
Corrections and sources listed below:
(5:48) PIC about to break out our red strings, like Charlie from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
(8:52) PIC early maps of "the Floridas"
(10:37) WIKI Napoleon Bonaparte https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon
(12:!2) LINK We talked all about alluvial soil back in Hell on the Beach part 2, link below: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hell-on-beach-2-139503255?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
(12:27) PIC 20th century real estate pamphlet from the Florida East Coast Railway Co.
(12:51) BOOK Finding Florida by T.D. Allman https://archive.org/details/findingfloridatr0000allm_d7c0
(14:10) LINK American Antiquarian Society - East Florida as a refuge for Southern loyalists, 1774-1785 https://www.americanantiquarian.org/proceedings/44806786.pdf
(15:18) WIKI Bernardo de Gálvez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_de_G%C3%A1lvez
(15:33) WIKI Galveston, Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galveston,_Texas
(15:58) LINK The Legacy - 1779. Not without Spain quote: "George Washington had pronounced on the matter long before this date. He affirmed that without the support of Spain it would not have been possible the success of his troops. Neither the wishes of the new nation to move away from British power and revolutionizing the foundations of English power after his declaration of independence on July 4th, 1776." https://www.thespanishlegacy.com/en/1779-no-sin-espana
(18:20) WIKI Castillo de San Marcos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castillo_de_San_Marcos
(23:52) WIKI Seven Years War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years%27_War or otherwise known as the French and Indian War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War
(25:37) WIKI Dr. Andrew Turnbull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Turnbull_(colonist)
(25:47) LINK Andrew Turnbull was first mentioned at the end of last episode, link below: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hell-on-beach-3-141223042?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
(26:55) WIKI Aldous Huxley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
(27:16) LINK the Florida-Italy connection is first mentioned in Hell on the Beach part 1, link below: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hell-on-beach-1-138027838?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
(30:15) WIKI Human Zoo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_zoo
(32:55) ARTICLE The Collector - Risorgimento: the long road to the unification of Italy https://www.thecollector.com/risorgimento-unification-italy/
(35:53) WIKI Heart of Darkness book by Joseph Conrad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness
(36:42) WIKI Captain Bernard Romans, deputy royal surveyor of Florida region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Romans
(39:20) WIKI "Florida Man" meme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Man
(41:44) WIKI Captain Bernard Romans, deputy royal surveyor of Florida region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Romans (again)
(42:04) BOOK Florida from Indian Trail to Space Age by Charlton W Tebeau https://books.google.com/books/about/Florida_from_Indian_Trail_to_Space_Age.html?id=fi8jAQAAIAAJ&source=kp_book_description
(42:15) BOOK Mullet on the Beach: the Minorcans of Florida by Patricia C. Griffin https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4859672-mullet-on-the-beach
(42:48) WIKI Minorcans of Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minorcans_of_Florida
(46:47) WIKI Treaty of Paris (1783) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1783)
(50:13) WIKI Third Treaty of San Ildefonso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Treaty_of_San_Ildefonso
(50:24) CORRECTION Vane said "France" here, but he meant to say "Florida"
(50:27) WIKI Charles "Carlos" II of Spain, the last Habsburg monarch of Spain, depicted below with his "Hapsberg jaw" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain
Hapsburg dynasty family tree
(53:16) WIKI Third Treaty of San Ildefonso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Treaty_of_San_Ildefonso (again)
(54:27) LINK to our recent topical discussion on the subject of liberalism https://www.patreon.com/posts/liberalism-26-143168459?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
(54:30) WIKI Great Man Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory
(54:46) TWEET Trump complaining that the AP refused to start calling it "Gulf of America"
(57:15) WIKI Haitian revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Revolution
(59:00) WIKI Haitian independence debt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_independence_debt
(59:42) WIKI Toussaint Louverture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toussaint_Louverture
(1:01:38) WIKI Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Perigord https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Maurice_de_Talleyrand-P%C3%A9rigord
(1:03:40) PIC It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia "oh I see… we don't have any legal recourse!" https://youtu.be/-9DpPoUq14I?si=nlSK_f8-HeJGq9pu
(1:03:45) PIC Thomas Jefferson quote from letter to John Dickinson August 9, 1803 "a constitutional amendment seems necessary for this." https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-41-02-0127
(1:14:30) QUOTE John Adams was opposed to slavery and expansionism
(1:16:21) QUOTE John Adams presents the two competing notions of power, military might or legal might. He of course preferred the latter, like many other northern politicians in the sectional conflict.
(1:18:20) ARTICLE Constitution Center - Blame Abraham Lincoln for the nation's first national income tax https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/say-happy-birthday-to-the-first-income-tax
(1:22:30) WIKI Patriot Wars (Florida) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_War_(Florida)
(1:23:45) BOOK The Rise of American Nationality, 1811-1819 by Kendric Charles Babcock https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Rise_of_American_Nationality_1811_18.html?id=F7jlEpaxRWcC
(1:24:17) WIKI Reuben Kemper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Kemper and his brother Samuel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Kemper became notorious freebooters (aka "fillibusters") defined as "someone who engages in an unauthorized military expedition into a foreign country or territory to foster or support a political revolution or secession" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_(military)
(1:24:39) WIKI Bay of Pigs Invasion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
(1:24:46) WIKI Office of Strategic Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services
(1:25:56) WIKI Vincente Folch - governor of West Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicente_Folch
(1:26:04) WIKI Reuben Kemper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Kemper and his brother Samuel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Kemper became notorious freebooters (aka "fillibusters") defined as "someone who engages in an unauthorized military expedition into a foreign country or territory to foster or support a political revolution or secession" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_(military) (again)
(1:26:53) QUOTE Thomas Jefferson April 2, 1791 - "Governor Quesada, by order of his court, is inviting foreigners to go and settle in Florida. This is meant for our people. Debtors take advantage of it, and go off with their property. Our citizens have a right to go where they please. It is the business of the States to take measures to stop them till their debts are paid. This done, I wish a hundred thousand of our inhabitants would accept the invitation. It will be the means of delivering to us peaceably what may otherwise cost us a war. In the meantime, we may complain of this seduction of our inhabitants just enough to make them believe we think it very wise policy for them, and confirm them in it. This is my idea of it. I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect and attachment, Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant." https://www.gutenberg.org/files/52878/52878-h/52878-h.htm
(1:27:44) WIKI Bonnie Blue flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Blue_flag
(1:28:47) WIKI Republic of West Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_West_Florida
(1:29:04) LINK The St. Francisville Democrat - The story of the West Florida rebellion reproduction of a chapter from a book by Stanley Clisbey Arthur, detailing the death of William Cooper https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Places/America/United_States/Louisiana/_Texts/ARTWFR/4*.html
(1:29:21) ARTICLE 64 Parishes - West Florida Revolt: The Florida parishes were not included in the Louisiana Purchase but were under Spanish control https://64parishes.org/entry/west-florida-revolt
(1:29:39) WIKI Bernardo de Gálvez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_de_G%C3%A1lvez (again)
(1:32:28) LINK Study of West Florida controversy (1918) by Jocelyn Isaac Cox (full pdf) https://www.seekingmyroots.com/members/files/H001092.pdf
(1:32:54) WIKI Melissa Johnson, West Florida's Betsy Ross and wife of Louisiana governor Isaac Johnson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Johnson_(politician)
(1:32:57) WIKI Bonnie Blue flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Blue_flag (again)
(1:33:06) WIKI Battle of the Alamo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo
(1:33:18) PIC Flag of Texas
(1:37:20) WIKI Patriot Wars (Florida) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_War_(Florida) (again)
(1:37:27) WIKI Flag of Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Texas
(1:40:58) PIC Flag of Israel
(1:46:32) ARTICLE Curbed - Before there were private jets, there were luxurious private train cars https://archive.curbed.com/2018/2/1/16943216/pullman-private-railroad-car-history
ARTICLE Museum of Toronto - The working conditions and segregation of black railway porters https://museumoftoronto.com/collection/conditions-segregation/
(1:46:45) WIKI Seaboard Air Line Railroad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaboard_Air_Line_Railroad
(1:47:32) WIKI Kwame Nkrumah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Nkrumah
(1:47:38) LINK Blowback season 6 is out! https://blowback.show/
(1:50:04) Follow us on Bluesky - brokenwindpodcast and butlersghost https://bsky.app/profile/brokenwindpod.bsky.social and https://bsky.app/profile/butlersghost.bsky.social
(1:51:00) SONG Sardines by the band Stella Starfox: https://youtu.be/9kF6N0oA0o4?si=wswiL3WoQ2HCM_AO
By Butler and VaneWe're very excited to release the next episode of our long-form podcast series on the history of Florida, where we will be analyzing the fifth chapter of the book Finding Florida by T. D. Allman, called "The West Florida Lone Star Butterfly Effect". (Butler description here)
We hope you enjoy listening to this series as much as we have enjoyed producing it for you! If you like the work we're doing, please like, comment, subscribe or just share us with your friends.
Anything you can do to support the show will help keep us keep the content flowing!
Our intro and outro theme music are from the song "Sardines" by the band Stella Starfox. You can find them on Apple Music and Spotify, and check out the full song here: https://youtu.be/9kF6N0oA0o4?si=wswiL3WoQ2HCM_AO
Corrections and sources listed below:
(5:48) PIC about to break out our red strings, like Charlie from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
(8:52) PIC early maps of "the Floridas"
(10:37) WIKI Napoleon Bonaparte https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon
(12:!2) LINK We talked all about alluvial soil back in Hell on the Beach part 2, link below: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hell-on-beach-2-139503255?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
(12:27) PIC 20th century real estate pamphlet from the Florida East Coast Railway Co.
(12:51) BOOK Finding Florida by T.D. Allman https://archive.org/details/findingfloridatr0000allm_d7c0
(14:10) LINK American Antiquarian Society - East Florida as a refuge for Southern loyalists, 1774-1785 https://www.americanantiquarian.org/proceedings/44806786.pdf
(15:18) WIKI Bernardo de Gálvez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_de_G%C3%A1lvez
(15:33) WIKI Galveston, Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galveston,_Texas
(15:58) LINK The Legacy - 1779. Not without Spain quote: "George Washington had pronounced on the matter long before this date. He affirmed that without the support of Spain it would not have been possible the success of his troops. Neither the wishes of the new nation to move away from British power and revolutionizing the foundations of English power after his declaration of independence on July 4th, 1776." https://www.thespanishlegacy.com/en/1779-no-sin-espana
(18:20) WIKI Castillo de San Marcos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castillo_de_San_Marcos
(23:52) WIKI Seven Years War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years%27_War or otherwise known as the French and Indian War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War
(25:37) WIKI Dr. Andrew Turnbull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Turnbull_(colonist)
(25:47) LINK Andrew Turnbull was first mentioned at the end of last episode, link below: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hell-on-beach-3-141223042?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
(26:55) WIKI Aldous Huxley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldous_Huxley
(27:16) LINK the Florida-Italy connection is first mentioned in Hell on the Beach part 1, link below: https://www.patreon.com/posts/hell-on-beach-1-138027838?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
(30:15) WIKI Human Zoo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_zoo
(32:55) ARTICLE The Collector - Risorgimento: the long road to the unification of Italy https://www.thecollector.com/risorgimento-unification-italy/
(35:53) WIKI Heart of Darkness book by Joseph Conrad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_Darkness
(36:42) WIKI Captain Bernard Romans, deputy royal surveyor of Florida region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Romans
(39:20) WIKI "Florida Man" meme https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Man
(41:44) WIKI Captain Bernard Romans, deputy royal surveyor of Florida region https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Romans (again)
(42:04) BOOK Florida from Indian Trail to Space Age by Charlton W Tebeau https://books.google.com/books/about/Florida_from_Indian_Trail_to_Space_Age.html?id=fi8jAQAAIAAJ&source=kp_book_description
(42:15) BOOK Mullet on the Beach: the Minorcans of Florida by Patricia C. Griffin https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4859672-mullet-on-the-beach
(42:48) WIKI Minorcans of Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minorcans_of_Florida
(46:47) WIKI Treaty of Paris (1783) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1783)
(50:13) WIKI Third Treaty of San Ildefonso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Treaty_of_San_Ildefonso
(50:24) CORRECTION Vane said "France" here, but he meant to say "Florida"
(50:27) WIKI Charles "Carlos" II of Spain, the last Habsburg monarch of Spain, depicted below with his "Hapsberg jaw" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain
Hapsburg dynasty family tree
(53:16) WIKI Third Treaty of San Ildefonso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Treaty_of_San_Ildefonso (again)
(54:27) LINK to our recent topical discussion on the subject of liberalism https://www.patreon.com/posts/liberalism-26-143168459?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
(54:30) WIKI Great Man Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_man_theory
(54:46) TWEET Trump complaining that the AP refused to start calling it "Gulf of America"
(57:15) WIKI Haitian revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Revolution
(59:00) WIKI Haitian independence debt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_independence_debt
(59:42) WIKI Toussaint Louverture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toussaint_Louverture
(1:01:38) WIKI Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Perigord https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Maurice_de_Talleyrand-P%C3%A9rigord
(1:03:40) PIC It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia "oh I see… we don't have any legal recourse!" https://youtu.be/-9DpPoUq14I?si=nlSK_f8-HeJGq9pu
(1:03:45) PIC Thomas Jefferson quote from letter to John Dickinson August 9, 1803 "a constitutional amendment seems necessary for this." https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-41-02-0127
(1:14:30) QUOTE John Adams was opposed to slavery and expansionism
(1:16:21) QUOTE John Adams presents the two competing notions of power, military might or legal might. He of course preferred the latter, like many other northern politicians in the sectional conflict.
(1:18:20) ARTICLE Constitution Center - Blame Abraham Lincoln for the nation's first national income tax https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/say-happy-birthday-to-the-first-income-tax
(1:22:30) WIKI Patriot Wars (Florida) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_War_(Florida)
(1:23:45) BOOK The Rise of American Nationality, 1811-1819 by Kendric Charles Babcock https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Rise_of_American_Nationality_1811_18.html?id=F7jlEpaxRWcC
(1:24:17) WIKI Reuben Kemper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Kemper and his brother Samuel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Kemper became notorious freebooters (aka "fillibusters") defined as "someone who engages in an unauthorized military expedition into a foreign country or territory to foster or support a political revolution or secession" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_(military)
(1:24:39) WIKI Bay of Pigs Invasion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
(1:24:46) WIKI Office of Strategic Services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services
(1:25:56) WIKI Vincente Folch - governor of West Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicente_Folch
(1:26:04) WIKI Reuben Kemper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_Kemper and his brother Samuel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Kemper became notorious freebooters (aka "fillibusters") defined as "someone who engages in an unauthorized military expedition into a foreign country or territory to foster or support a political revolution or secession" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_(military) (again)
(1:26:53) QUOTE Thomas Jefferson April 2, 1791 - "Governor Quesada, by order of his court, is inviting foreigners to go and settle in Florida. This is meant for our people. Debtors take advantage of it, and go off with their property. Our citizens have a right to go where they please. It is the business of the States to take measures to stop them till their debts are paid. This done, I wish a hundred thousand of our inhabitants would accept the invitation. It will be the means of delivering to us peaceably what may otherwise cost us a war. In the meantime, we may complain of this seduction of our inhabitants just enough to make them believe we think it very wise policy for them, and confirm them in it. This is my idea of it. I have the honor to be, with sentiments of the most perfect respect and attachment, Sir, your most obedient, and most humble servant." https://www.gutenberg.org/files/52878/52878-h/52878-h.htm
(1:27:44) WIKI Bonnie Blue flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Blue_flag
(1:28:47) WIKI Republic of West Florida https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_West_Florida
(1:29:04) LINK The St. Francisville Democrat - The story of the West Florida rebellion reproduction of a chapter from a book by Stanley Clisbey Arthur, detailing the death of William Cooper https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Places/America/United_States/Louisiana/_Texts/ARTWFR/4*.html
(1:29:21) ARTICLE 64 Parishes - West Florida Revolt: The Florida parishes were not included in the Louisiana Purchase but were under Spanish control https://64parishes.org/entry/west-florida-revolt
(1:29:39) WIKI Bernardo de Gálvez https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardo_de_G%C3%A1lvez (again)
(1:32:28) LINK Study of West Florida controversy (1918) by Jocelyn Isaac Cox (full pdf) https://www.seekingmyroots.com/members/files/H001092.pdf
(1:32:54) WIKI Melissa Johnson, West Florida's Betsy Ross and wife of Louisiana governor Isaac Johnson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Johnson_(politician)
(1:32:57) WIKI Bonnie Blue flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Blue_flag (again)
(1:33:06) WIKI Battle of the Alamo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo
(1:33:18) PIC Flag of Texas
(1:37:20) WIKI Patriot Wars (Florida) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_War_(Florida) (again)
(1:37:27) WIKI Flag of Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Texas
(1:40:58) PIC Flag of Israel
(1:46:32) ARTICLE Curbed - Before there were private jets, there were luxurious private train cars https://archive.curbed.com/2018/2/1/16943216/pullman-private-railroad-car-history
ARTICLE Museum of Toronto - The working conditions and segregation of black railway porters https://museumoftoronto.com/collection/conditions-segregation/
(1:46:45) WIKI Seaboard Air Line Railroad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seaboard_Air_Line_Railroad
(1:47:32) WIKI Kwame Nkrumah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Nkrumah
(1:47:38) LINK Blowback season 6 is out! https://blowback.show/
(1:50:04) Follow us on Bluesky - brokenwindpodcast and butlersghost https://bsky.app/profile/brokenwindpod.bsky.social and https://bsky.app/profile/butlersghost.bsky.social
(1:51:00) SONG Sardines by the band Stella Starfox: https://youtu.be/9kF6N0oA0o4?si=wswiL3WoQ2HCM_AO