This week is the first episode in the new direction of the Helping Joe podcast where Tucker, Nils, and Charlie help Joe get his life together by finding and building skills and a career.

In this episode Tucker & Nils map out Joe's end goal and what success looks like for him. They try to figure out what Joe really wants, what he likes to do, and what skills he has right now that he can work with.

Also, they bring up the difference between internal (intellectual) work and external (physical) work and which one Joe should explore work if he wants to be successful.