In this episode, we hear from Shane Walker, Core Lab Manager at the Department of Food Science at the University of Guelph.

We discuss the collaboration between the university, Royal City Brewing, and Escarpment Labs, which has produced the Experimental Pale Ale.

John Mihut is back for Hate it or Love it! We talk Star Wars and some of the characters that made our childhood.

As always, no matter what you're drinking, let's drink together.