a lot of the time, i wait for holy to happen in heaven. i mean, i wouldn’t call this place i find myself as holy; but i’m trying to believe it. here is holy sounds, looks, and feels nice until it doesn't look holy. it's nice when things are looking up and you're in a good stride in life. but what happens when here is messy, scary and really dark? can it still be holy? check out this episode as i share my "here" in hopes of not just encouraging you, but myself too.