If you have ever been around Cam and Steve, you know that they enjoy ranting about and even questioning certain "christian norms". Usually, these discussion start off with one of them saying "here’s the thing..." In this segment of the podcast, Cam and Steve bring those fun conversations to their listeners in a mini series called "Here's the Thing". 

Have you ever heard a Christian say, "Well, God said I needed to..." ? How do we know when God actually said to do something and when He clearly did not? In this week's podcast Cam and Steve unpack this loaded question and offer truth to help us navigate through things that Christians say.