Are you a hardcore daddy or a hardocre zaddy? OR are you a person who just likes music and loves parenthood? Speaking with Steven Callaway and Martin Franco we talk about owning a record label, parenthood, and the strength of ingenuity. We reflect on how we came to be in each other’s lives. House shows are the nexus of where understanding is built, and Martin and Steven are a testament to that. DON’T SLEEP ON CROCS!!!! In closing this episode is dedicated to Breonna Taylor, Black Lives Matter, Black Trans Lives Matter, and empowering POC. Say their name!!

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