Army helicopter pilot, RTAG founder, and author Erik Sabiston joins Hero Hut director David Hoffmaster to talk about Operation Hammerdown from the perspective of the Dustoff pilots called in to retrieve wounded soldiers from one of the most remote battlefields in Afghanistan. He also talks flying while afraid of heights, and a new training tool he is spearheading called Icarus that will help helicopter pilots prepare for the sudden lose of visual orientation due to clouds, fog or dust storms.