The Giants continue to lose, start to trade players away, and stop pretending that they're competing for a spot in the playoffs. Zach and Willys battle their own exhaustion—both physical and Giants-viewing-related—to bring you some hot talk about the Monday night loss to Atlanta, the Eli Apple and Damon Harrison deals, and what in darnation Jon Gruden is "doing" as "coach" in Oakland. They wrap up with a quick preview of the upcoming divisional match-up against Washington.