Worship leader and songwriter Phil Wickham is back—this time with his wife Mallory, who pulls back the curtain on life at home while Phil is on the road. From privacy and boundaries to joyful chaos with kids, they talk honestly about the unseen sacrifices that make visible ministry possible.

You’ll hear the story of their relationship (from hesitant boyfriend to wholehearted husband), the reality of Summer Worship Nights—miracles, momentum, and whooping cough—and the everyday stuff: mice in the garage, sprinter van shenanigans, and why a five-gallon bucket is elite family gear. It’s tender, funny, and full of faith for marriages and homes that put Jesus at the center.

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Phil + Mallory: @philwickham

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Time stamps

06:50 – Mallory’s first-ever podcast

23:42 – Mice infestation + whooping cough

36:24 – Billy Graham cameo & Phil raps

38:47 – Sprinter vs. the garage

43:31 – Five-gallon bucket mouse trap

53:27 – Song of the Saints tour preview