Sam tells Ryan about a recent talk he gave at BigSkyDevCon. They chat about how backend frameworks are raising the ceiling of what UIs they’re capable of delivering, how frontend frameworks are raising the floor of what backend features they come bundled with, and what each community can learn from the other.

Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 4:23 - Recap of Ryan Florence’s talk
• 6:49 - Overview of "High floor, high ceiling"
• 10:02 - Cohesion is the biggest strength of backend frameworks
• 17:10 - Why doesn’t Rails for JavaScript exist?
• 23:48 - Locality of behavior is the biggest strength of frontend frameworks
• 33:14 - The use of lexical scope in React
• 50:27 - Which community is raising both the floor and ceiling the most?

Links:

• "High floor, high ceiling" talk