Liz and Dave travel through some of their personal transformative experiences, and share some the grueling truth of transformation. A raw and honest conversation about the beauty, frustration, unlearning, confusion, light and goopiness you feel during a transformative moment. Liz and Dave also discuss opportunities for transformation on a collective scale too! Filled with plenty of kitty interruptions, tons of coughing, forgetting where we were, and even a Higher Consciousness first moment!