This is a selection of highlights from episode #191 of The 80,000 Hours Podcast.

These aren't necessarily the most important, or even most entertaining parts of the interview — and if you enjoy this, we strongly recommend checking out the full episode:

Carl Shulman on government and society after AGI

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Chapters:

• How AI advisors could have saved us from COVID-19 (00:00:05)
• Why Carl doesn't support enforced pauses on AI research (00:06:34)
• Value lock-in (00:12:58)
• How democracies avoid coups (00:17:11)
• Building trust between adversaries about which models you can believe (00:24:00)
• Opportunities for listeners (00:30:11)

Highlights put together by Simon Monsour, Milo McGuire, and Dominic Armstrong