We had the absolute pleasure of sitting down with Tanya from Mamma Toledo's The Pie Hole. She shared her deeper experiences and how overcoming those shaped her as a business owner. In the podcast we discuss how she came to start her business, how she stays in love with baking after so many years, and what it's like hiring family members (a lesson we listened to intently). I must say we did buy pie after speaking with her. We recommend that all of you go buy pie.