In this episode, we speak with celebrated Pakistani human rights activist Hina Jilani. We discuss how Pakistani society has evolved amid the country’s turbulent history since partition. We delve into the geopolitical influences on Pakistan’s politics, the relationship between the military and civilian governments, and the tensions between institutions and political inertia in safeguarding Pakistani human rights. Hina brings her extensive experiences as a Supreme Court lawyer, co-founder of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, and an international legal observer to help us understand the push and pull between Pakistan’s government and its people as Pakistanis fight for their human rights.