In this conversation, Angie and Janella Dobbs discuss Janella's journey from being a hip-hop artist to becoming a therapist. They talk about the importance of sharing personal stories and experiences to inspire and heal others. They also touch on the challenges of building and maintaining relationships, especially for black women. Janella emphasizes the need for understanding and addressing childhood trauma and its impact on adult behaviors. She highlights the role of music, particularly hip-hop, in expressing and addressing these traumas. Janella also discusses the need for more mental health resources and support within the hip-hop community. In this conversation, Janella Dobbs discusses her personal experiences with shame, trauma, and isolation, and how therapy helped her overcome these challenges. She emphasizes the importance of vulnerability and authenticity in therapy and highlights the need for more accessible mental health services in underserved communities. Janella also shares her goals of reaching more people through her private practice and promoting mental health awareness.