You Gotta NO!

Hire for Where You Are, Not Where You Wish


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In this candid conversation, entrepreneur and operator Chris Jones breaks down the real work of scaling: set a clear vision, communicate it relentlessly, and build capacity at every step.

We dig into the “stair‑step” model of growth, hiring and letting go in fast-moving seasons, and why retention depends less on perks and more on three disciplines: clarity, communication, and capacity.

Chris also talks openly about burnout and boundaries—how to lead when life expands, and how to design systems that support your most human moments, not just your star performers.

If you’re growing a team, leading through change, or trying to keep momentum without losing people, this one’s a blueprint.

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You Gotta NO!By Heliona