US political journalist Jeb Lund and kiwi comedian Tim Batt chat discuss the bungled operation in Niger leading to the deaths of four special forces soldiers and Trump's bungled condolence call to one of the widows. Also this week; Betsy DeVos is a nightmare that's finally starting to surface on the news as a result of rescinding 72 policy documents guiding schools on Special Education; a Putin critic's US Visa is pulled suddenly and New Zealand finally has a government!

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