Your bluetooth will be shooketh when Latin Kings “Estevan Oriol” and “Big Lepke” of the West Side hit the PYFC with Big Lucks, Ol’ Blue Eyes, Schwartz and Chumahan, hear why the LA OG Netflix Stars prove it's never a good idea to change vato’s mid-streaming service, Estevan’s talks about his latest doc-project with Cypress Hill, Big Lepke argues with Virtual Lepke, Joker brand Europe makes an appearance, how experience and longevity are Estevan’s trademark, will Big Lep listen to sound advice AND MORE! BONUS: Schmitty’s waistline has become his official armrest.

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HLS: Ep. 286: Estevan Vs Lepke

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HLS: Ep. 286: Estevan Vs Lepke

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marry me directed by . Maybe inappropriate for children under 13 streaming. Now only on peacock. Sign up now. Visit peacock tv.com. Y you're talking, Hey, I still want, can you, uh, say listen to the hard luck. This is Esteban Oriel. Listen to the hard luck show motherfuckers Monday, Wednesday, Friday, or something.

And like that, is this the bone or listen to the hard rock show. Monday, Friday, motherfucker. Hard luck. I thought shit did rock. Hard cop

please shine, please. Shine. Make sure that this is one of our jobs that eights, Esteban, that might've been the best endorsement all the time. Listen to the hard cock show. Monday, Wednesday, Friday, rock hard. Shoot. Whew. Yeah, it's too. It's too late. Come on, bro. Yeah, we're just gonna rock. Yeah, we're just gonna rock, bro.

Okay. Now, Mr. Uh, music. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Nah, don't get off. . Come on, bro. You got your time. Get ready? Get ready. I got you. All right, Jesus. All right, we ready? Ready? It's going to be the lobbyist. Boom Schmidt and get moving, bro. wearing new balance Costco new balance, Costco new balance. What are those?

Ralph's new bounds that they're police work. That's a co-lab they did with Ralph's. Once you close out the dollar general, the Rite aid colabs. Those are dollar general Walgreens, Walgreens

section and big Schmitty. Uh, Schmitty's waste raises more questions than it looks weird. It almost looks like Maddie. Come here with them. 99 cent or Hey Schmidty. Do you have a colostomy bag?

You curious like a little mini laptop on the side duty bag, bro. Don't take it out. Schmidt. That's disgusting. Quit playing with your duty bird, bro. Oh, he's

drop down the fucking board. The super bowl. Fucking t-shirts. Yeah, he bought them downtown. He got the knockout febrile. I got in my car every time, every time you bring me a super bowl

shots, shots.

good morning. And welcome to the hard luck show I'm issued a fag qualify west side host Steve lucky Luciano. That's right, ladies coming, you tuned into the greatest show on earth, hard luck show coming to you from the Pico youth center in the city of Santa Monica, man, we got a show for you today. The motherfucker with braid sitting across from me, my partner, they're mad Indian

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No, that's why man. Come on now. Come on, come on now.

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An extraordinary show runner. Extraordinary is Mr. Short, short. He shows what's up. What's up? That's excellent. Boy. That's so exciting. And

who's on your rights. Like I left on my right

right. We got. Silence. Wait, wait, wait. We have a real one and only I'm from Los Angeles.

oh man.

That's a recent hit by Cypress hill. Not at night for them to stay, put my hand upon the bag, come up

and it is the new shit. And of course, squishy. Big lips, golden girl.

I used to pull in isn't

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I bought that hat and last but not least Don visuals. Ah,

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no, no, it's nice. Who's that? You already know you are not ready.

Tell your children not to go near. Tell them to stay away from the camera man from the crazy dress Ali. All right. That's Ali. God damn. That was a lot of shit. It was a lie. All right, show's over. Thank you. That was great. Hold up this meeting. I mean, how about the fact that we've got a bro fucking week? Hey, well, how about the fact that we got a man is responsible for putting you up on net oh, how about that guy?

That guy on the right. How about, how about we? How about we keep you? Yeah, go ahead. Okay. Thank you. what's up G how you doing? Esteban? Give us good. I'm tired enough there. All that shit. Yeah. How about the freeway? The freeway is great. You said you was in a parking lot? Yeah, it was. That's what the

the 4 0 5 or the 10. And the thing about it is I think everybody. Just trying to go to the beach today. Don't want to fucking drive the same way I'm going at the same time. And, uh, yeah, I got stuck for a minute, but I'm here for listen. That's the one or let's cut the shit. You just got done working on a project for a major music group.

Uh, are you at Liberty to even discuss the details of that? Yeah. Okay. Who and what was the project? Who is Cypress hill? Yeah, I heard of that. You ever heard of them documentary for a Showtime? Yeah, I haven't heard a Showtime. Showtime is where the data's coming out for 20

Hey, can we get a congratulations?

fucking platinum. Second. One's coming out. You guys on the way, man. You know, we waiting on that, right? We know you're waiting on. He's waiting. Guess what? Big lips waiting. Can you hurry up? He's waiting, waiting on that from her. You got creamed by the mailbox. Got crazy. that's where it needs to be. Hey, listen.

Hey. Hey look bro. I'm sorry, bro. Bro. Don't upset virtual Lipkey cause there's going to be a battle between the real lucky and the virtual lepto. You understand that man, that man made it by the grace. So, you know, the man have says, you know, shout out to my homeboy, Mr. Cartoon. He don't like to hear about God.

So we religious, we spiritual. I'm like, shit, I might it's like Twilight zone. I might go in, it might not come out. So, you know, right.

fucking blue wall. It's like, I ran up into the tent. are you to go? I can't get, I can't bring you up in there. He was like, why not? I go, look, these motherfuckers don't want nobody in there. They want no filming. You get caught on skid row filming nowadays what happens scan. So then we get mad, right? So anyway, he's like, look, you can come in, but you can't bring the.

So I just, I got, so I walked out the 10 and nobody goes, Hey, did you get any dope out of that tent? And I go, yeah, he goes, man, two guys just passed out on the fed died or something. And I was like, well, you know, I'm, you know, maybe I got problems though. All right. So hold on. Sorry. All right, listen, that's true.

Esteban, uh, the Cyprus tell us the high point of working on the Cypress hill documentary and exactly what are it, what is the subject matter besides Cypress? So what are you actually capturing? Yeah, man, I'd say the high point is finishing it. And, uh, um, what was the second part? What, what is it about all that it's about, uh, 30 years of their career?

Um, you know, uh, in the beginning we tell a little bit of the story of where they all came from. Uh, Sen dog came from, uh Goolwa and then Bobo was a. He's Puerto Rican, but I think his family came from the east coast and landed here in LA mugs was from New York. Then he later on came to LA and be real, was born and raised here in LA.

And then, uh, the way they all met up and how they did the group, you know, put the group together and shop the deal. And, you know, from there on, it was just, you know, like a snowball and when, so we're now in a new era of kind of like filmmaking, I think, where it's not right. So when Showtime time, or how did that project come together?

Well, um, well, I've been, uh, trying to do this project for maybe 10 years and, uh, it took Ella originals to bring it back to me or bring it to me because, uh, you know, I think the homeys probably thought like, ah, Maybe I could do music videos, but maybe not, you know, pull together on a full, full feature movie.

I know for a network. And so they had other people in mind and uh, other people working on it, but that didn't work out or those guys didn't come through. Right. So, uh, Ellie originals came out and, and they were like, Hey, what do you think about, you know, maybe you working on the document. I was like, you know, it sounds a good idea to me.

Right. And, um, you know, just got right back right back to it. And, uh, it feels kind of like, um, my original idea would be to do like a four-part series. Like a Jimmy I've been in Dre did, uh, the defiant ones kind of like do that, but on the solar Sassons cause you know, we have, you know, so much, so many different people in our group, in our crew that.

Uh, you know, there, there they're artists that are, you know, go, go through all the different forms of art from music to film, to, um, fashion and then art film and video. So we got people in all those different realms of art, and I thought it'd be cool to do a documentary from there. And then, because there wouldn't be enough time to tell all the stories, then we break it off and go into individual stories like Cypress hill, meaning cartoon, um, the house of pain, you know, like, uh, uh, the rest of the crew, you know, the, the dilated peoples and the funk dubious.

And, you know, there's a chasing Cron, Don, you know, there's a lot of different, uh, you know, uh, there's James Khan, the hooligans with, uh, I mean, uh, Scottie con and Al you know, Scotty's James concert. Right. So, you know, that there's that big, uh, uh, you know, big, how would you say, uh, like they, they left a big mark in the film industry, right.

In film and in TV. And then, uh, you know, they're calling alchemists one of the greatest producers alive, you know, those years. So yeah. You know, our crew goes deep into every different, uh, form of art. And, um, and I also got members that are kind of like part members from other groups. So you got these, like the Rizza you don't, or like their part soul Sassons kind of too, right?

Yeah. I mean, you know, mugs did albums with pretty much everybody in, and he's done remixes for, you know, huge people and, uh, also too. Anyways, well that didn't work out, you know, doing it that way. So we, we went to, we did LA originals and so I feel kind of like, this is kind of like part two, but, you know, we're, we're moving up to right where I wanted to start.

Right. But it's going, it's going the opposite way, but it's still, it's still delivering you a place that you're able to tell all the stories that you want to tell. Yeah. You're the one that can only tell those stories. You want to be able to get them out. This is heading that direction it's still on is I would say maybe more than 10 years that he's been talking about multiple documentaries, this in particular Cypress hill souls, but there's a bunch of things you've been talking about for a long time and, you know, but I think it's also jumaan if you were there, like maybe some of us are there, this is the ultimate example of.

Letting go and not trying to force somebody to do something your way and to just back up, let go, and just continue doing your craft. Yeah. And eventually, you know, even with people that are close to you, sometimes they need to see it in different way to be receive it. You know? And I think what he's talking about is really what happened.

Well, LA originals drops and people that he's, you know, two seconds from now are seeing him at different light, just because it's been brought to you through Netflix. Another thing that I want to kind of like point out is that Esteban's been focused on this thing for like decades. Right. And in, in, in, in w when you're sitting there like chilling with your friends and stuff and talking about bullshit project, Well, that's the one that's been focused on is almost a no brainer when you pitch it, you go like, well, what about a documentary about Cypress hill?

Or what about LA originals? Meaning cartoon, right? That's a no brainer. Like you don't really no brainer now. No wait, but wait, but what I'm saying is, is that it's a no brainer even five years ago, really? For us. Yes. For us. Yes. But the point of the matter is, is that it's a project that anybody, it makes sense.

And then, but Esteban's been on it for a long time. So what happens is I've experienced this even with just talking to U S Devonta, talking to people that are around us, I've experienced situations where people are like, all right, let's make this film tomorrow. Right. Right. And then, uh, Esteban's like, yeah, it doesn't necessarily work that way.

Yes. Right. Do you understand what I'm saying? Oh, there's people that have been in something maybe four or five, six years. Right. And they're frustrated because they want the thing made already. And it doesn't go like that all the time, man. I'm all the time. Mostly doesn't go that way. And so, and so I don't have a lot of experience with it.

I know you step on that and I know you do because I've seen it time and time again, person just sees somebody on fricking Netflix or whatever, and they think like, oh, so we can just make that tomorrow. They don't realize the thing that hit Netflix is 10 years in the making 20 years or in the making. So that's the one, I mean, you've got a very, um, I would say crafted style about your persona and you don't, um, just stipulate, outrageously or yell necessarily.

And people around, you got all these brilliant ideas that you've already thought of and tried to get them excited about 10 decades ago. And now they're coming to you. Like it's a new idea. How do you remain so Zen about it? Is it the facial hair that kind of has a Japanese twinge to it? Or how do you do it?

Um, I would just say, I just keep it moving. You know, I get up every day, hit the sun on the ice and think about while I'm there. That's about an hour and a half, two hour, a little ritual I do every day. That's when I think about what I'm going to do for the rest of that day. Um, you know, of course I think about all the shit that I have coming in the future, but for the most part, I just think about today, you know, cause we all know, all we have is today, yesterday's gone.

Tomorrow's not here yet. So I just focus on today and, and the bigger picture, but, um, you know, fucking there's, there's never enough time in the day for me, that's for sure. And uh, I got a lot of, you know, I was looking at this, I was looking at this, uh, at this trailer. From Elliot original started off as a project called Inc the movie.

And I'm looking, uh, it was 15 years ago that we put that trailer up on the, uh, up on YouTube 15 years ago. Yeah. Hold on. That's when

that's, when, uh, you know, that's when that's, when somebody put that up on YouTube, but that was when that was that late originals. Right. And, uh, the, uh, a friend of ours, Sebastian Ortega, the one who, uh, you know, locked in that deal, he came and he was like, Hey, man, I want to do, or I want to do ink, you know?

And, um, you know, of course we had to change it cause they molested the fuck out of that word, in that industry. We, we, you know, uh, we put it together and came up with LA originals and, um, Hey, how did you come up with the original song? It was really easy. Um, it was, uh, it was, you know, a bunch of homeys sitting around, um, and, uh, was, it was me and, uh, Adam and the homie Bobby, and, uh, maybe one or two other people.

And we were just throwing around names and Adam violet Brown's son, he came up, he he's like, well, why don't you just call the LA originals? And they're like, yeah, why don't we? And then we pitched that to, to the, to the team and everybody loved it. And we went with that. Um, and if it fit perfect, cause it's like, not only is it me and cartoon, we were born and raised in LA and, but the whole movie is about LA.

We've done in LA and about LA around the world. So it was like that shit just locked in perfectly. And, um, I forgot where I was pulling it out perfectly. Yeah. And that's kinda what brought this people needed to see that all happen. Oh, you talked about it because people just think that it's made just like, but now, now that we're kind of in the zone of LA originals and a little bit of the putting together.

I think another thing that's, uh, is interesting is that big lap right. Was in LA originals. Uh, and now I am famous deep in it, deep in it. And now here he is famous. Right. And, um, what are your observations where he was and where he is now putting you on the spot as the Vaughn, don't be waving your hand.

Yeah. And unconscious unclench your fist. No one's doing, you were just on the show a week ago or whatever it was and it's already played. So whatever anyone heard in that shows what they heard. Hold on. I'm sorry. I just want to ask you, Hey listen, go ahead. Go ahead, please. Certain things that him and I know outside of this microphone and the thing that I don't, you know, like, like go here, whatever, is this a fucking meeting or is it a show about this, bro?

You tripping. It's a scare. You, it does it scare. You do whatever you gonna to do wrong. I'm just, I, listen, this is a longtime friend. He's tried to quit winking. No, because the last time I fucking talked to him, this is my I, every time I get I'm getting blown out of the water. And now you got us

you were talking about things. We just got them to go hunting, but this part of it. Yeah. But like I got my son on here listening to him. I said, look, can we just

you to go hard on me? I ain't tripping on that. I just tripping out. You know, like, no, no, no, no, no. Don't tell the truth. No, no, no. As Davon knows how to be prudent. This is a man that's man, longer than you think. So. What does that mean? What did he say? And prudent. Fuck his mother running everybody over the you ain't fruit and bro, look at this.

There's a whole lot. Cause it's like quiet dude. Do whatever fucking duct tape Smitty and throw him in the back. Don't distract us with Schmidt. Now he's waving a red flag. What was the first question? The question was Esteban. You've known him a long time and we saw. Uh, I think maybe challenges that, um, big lip was facing in LA originals.

And now here he is. Um, are, do you have any observations or concerns or thoughts about, um, welcome back dreaming only on peacock. Can't wait to start junior year saved by the bell is back and taking school spirit. Our Bibles just destroyed our mascot. We're going to crush valley to the max. If we don't learn from the past, we are doomed to repeat it.

Reboots of teen Charles, from the nineties, you had a new idea. Hollywood saved by the bell new season screaming. Now let's do this baby only on peacock. Uh, he's still going through the same challenges, you know, like we all, we all do all have been, um, you know, at any second, any one of us could. Go left when we should be going.

Right. And, uh, yeah, we always, we all got one foot on a banana put on life, you know, so it's like, you know, anything could happen at any time. And, um, you know, I see a lot of my friends going through struggles and challenges and, and pulling through it. And then, uh, there's some that haven't, you know, recipes of my homie Egypt, he passed away.

Um, you know, there's a, there's a bunch of, you know, we've all lost a bunch of friends and family members due to, you know, everything that's going on right now. Um, but I see him left, uh, you know, he's, he, uh, everybody has a 50 50 chance that everything with everything, you know, it's like, what do you think the chances are?

You're getting you doing this or that 50 50 that I'm going to where I'm not, you know, so. Um, there's no guarantees and there's no, uh, you know, for sure things. So it depends on, uh, you know, however much work you put into it. That's what you get out of it. Sure. So I take them in order. Um, um, I feel like LEP, well, let me put this way.

There was a period of time where I felt like lip was putting in a lot of work. Right. And then all of a sudden, it seems like the work's not there. I was saying, put in the work, you get the results. You don't put in the work and you don't get the results. Half of the work and half Hashem, you're going to get some FAFSA shit.

If you want to like visually, like, if you want to ask the question, like, do you feel that you did black lacked on the worker? You're like, bro, I think I lacked, lacked on a lot of other stuff. I didn't just get lazy, but I seen something that happened to me last night. You ain't got to do all that. You look good anyway.

Stay in your lane anyway. So anyway,

Yeah, it happened to me last night, you know, there was just like, just so much shit happening and that's, and that's, I was talking to somebody on the phone. They're like, you need to just fucking shut that door and worry about yourself. And maybe you're at a point in your life where, you know, you did what you had to do for those men, you know?

And I started for me to like, have another individual telling me that, you know, but no, but wait a minute, you fell. But how about when, the way that the program works in like an honesty situation to where, even though I messed up for six months, like you keep looking at it, you know, like for fucking a long time, oh, well you weren't using in this picture.

And I fucking, you know, swollen, I'm fucking swollen. I'm like I was three months in a run in this picture. So it takes a long time. It took me a minute in order to. So fuck shit up. And people were noticing that a real close to me there. They were like, next to me saying, is everything okay? And I'm like, sure.

Everything's, you know, really in there. And I can see it in their face. Like even a step. I was like, no, everything. Ain't okay, motherfucker. I've known you. I've known you for so long. And then this dude next to me, by my, yeah, the homie right here next to me, he kind of knows what, I don't even look at peanut butter, but he's just hearing my voice.

He was like, it was the fuck on me. Like you don't sound right. I know that voice. We know we both like, you know, I've never shot dope with you. How do you know my voice? He goes, cause I shoot dope and I know the voice. So what's going on. Can you interpret that, that we just got a long one as soliloquy from a big law.

How do you, how do you interpret what he just said? Um, that, um, I would say that he knows what he, what he did. He knows what he's doing and he knows what he has to do. To get back on the right track. Now it's all about applying everything. He knows just your measure, which is that hard work that you were talking about.

Right. You know, cause it, it ain't easy and, uh, you know, uh, He just got to get back to it and it's no secret, no big deal. But, um, but in a way there is, there is a secret because it hasn't reached certain levels in that thing to where I want it to be like, I want to go and just like, make the drastic announcements and do that.

But at the same time, I also I'm preparing myself because they say that you have to be honest in all your affairs in what we practice. I practice the 12 step program. Yeah. But I don't, if I were here to suck, he was like, well, you haven't been practicing the right fucking way. None of this shit would have happened.

I don't think maybe we just listened to my leaders. He's got 19

they know something about not picking up exactly where I got that. Steve, I see you leaning in a certain direction. Right. And then I'm looking at you interpret things, you know, big, big left to what are you hearing? And big lips, you know, He's doing, he's doing better. He, and I think like left, like if someone said he knows what happened, right.

And, um, and, and he knows what he has to do. I mean, he'd been knowing this information for a while now, but at the same time, you know, I think that it's, it's applying the information. Maybe it's in the way that you apply it. It needs to be applied maybe differently. The way that you're setting it up. A lot of times it and me the same way I come at sobriety and it lies.

And then it falls apart. I guess I started looking at what I was building and I kept on building it unrealistic unsustainable way. Or, you know, like, I don't know. And I really doing the work. I don't know. Esteban did you, and with big, big Lux, right. And big Lux has been through ups and downs or whatever he struggled with.

So do you see a similar thing with your friends where you're like, man, they're putting something together, but, uh, but why does it, sometimes it seems like the threads get lost or whatever it is and you know him for a long time. So yeah, probably all of them. I think all my, most of my friends are the same type of person.

I don't know. It's weird. Uh, I think, uh, I don't know, but they're all super creative to make it's uh, like when they put their mind at something like a creative idea, it comes out, you know, real, it comes out sick, you know, what, what exactly what they were telling me, maybe even a little bit better and. It's it's a cool process to watch.

This is not cool when you know that they're there in their lows and people are, you know, people are getting hurt and not, not like in a physical way, but feelings and shit like that. Yeah. That's not cool. Um, It's, you know, it's, it's been part of the story the whole time. It's part of all of our story and we all have been living it and it's, you know, it's all real life, you know?

I mean that, that part of it's real. And when, when big LEP came through last week and he was talking about what he was going through, he, you got choked up a minute there. And I got to tell you mid showed up for like a weeks, man. Like it says, it's just like, if you see me up every day, like really like this one here, this one's heavy, you know, 'cause people hit me up.

People hit me up that I don't even know right. People from Milwaukee. And they're like, I almost started crying. I cried when I heard big. And so this, this, this, I think about that. And I'm like, man, there's nobody, these two guys are still on big, big Lux and big Lackey. I've never seen it maybe in a few occasions, but these guys are beloved.

Like in any scenario that they're in, they're creative, but also they're like, people love that. Yeah. Right. No, I trip out on that. Cause motherfuckers hate on me and I'm doing I'm fucking doing all my shit. Right? Like tell the Indian to shut the fuck up. I can just imagine if I fucked up, that'd be like trying to kill yourself.

Right. Like, oh man. How about a typical day walking down sunset. They'll be like, people will stop me and be like, where's lucky yet. I'm like, eh, like he's people. He knows that. I don't know. Like, I don't know. He's like, um, when she went left, when, when they said, when I was talking about all my close friends, this is kind of what goes on.

I started thinking about the group friends. It's like. Yeah, it is man. And the stem on is definitely the one is the, um, he's the, uh, what is it? The common denominator in these, right. So a lot of people close to him, we lost some of them along the way. You know, some never came back. Some are busted, some are out here trying to figure it out somewhere in a sober living and, and right.

But they're struggling with this thing. And, and Estelle on is like the, in many ways been the anchor, right? I mean, he was right. He goes through all the shit. And so, and he does it without catching a lot of fucking, uh, attitude about it. And through it, he's dealt with good friends, telling a fuck you and all that shit.

And he just fucking, then they come around and apologize. But I'm saying, me looking at all that we can, all that. I got to a place in my life where I wanted to stop. Like when the clock turns and it becomes the lucky show. Now everybody's scared. Lucky's fucking up lucky. I got sick of that time coming. And it being the lucky show again, like I'd rather be one of the glue pieces in this, right.

I'd rather be the guy that doesn't disappear and that's not bad. I can able to do small chunks of that, but I haven't been able to do that for a long, consistent stretches. And I'm trying to be, I'm not trying to be, that's the guy I want to be today. That's just accountable and be there more like a Stevan he's one mandate for a long time with a bunch of different dudes.

Okay. Something that I've learned from Estella. And I don't generally talk about learning from people because I'm a fucking know it all show off faster, but no, I don't. But one of the things that God's love is true, but one of the things I learned from Esteban is to respect. To respect the amount of time you stuck at something because maybe in the first five years, people might not have been, but Esteban has stayed with a certain thing for so long and been so consistent at it for so long that he's built up a body of work and material to break through certain barriers.

And when people look at them and think like, oh, well this is just a, you know, overnight success kind of guy, or it's now it's the Latin turn for media. So will, so here's Esteban instead, it's more like Esteban did it when people believed in it, when they didn't believe in it, when they saw the value in it, they didn't see the value, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

He was there with a camera and his fucking crew day in, day out. And I take that. I actually apply that when I think about my firm, I think about that. I don't think like I haven't seen this guy ever stopped working. Right. But I'm talking about even on trips to Japan and Vegas. Like we could be walking down to go get breakfast in the morning.

I an hour asleep and it's still going to be sticker and shit promoting your shit. Yeah. Every minute. I can't do that. I have to be able to unplug like some other shit get lost on switching, but he is doesn't matter. He's either answering email, putting shit away. Right. He's pulling out the stencil to hit the curb and like, why you're just having a conversation stopping from spray, painting the floor right here.

But people are listening. Like, what do you mean you guys are still trading on the fucking so yes we are. I think, I think I was getting mad at it for a while. I was getting mad at it, but I was getting mad at the fact that for so long we were doing shit and nobody was getting it. Right. But at some point in time, you give up and you're like, this is, I don't care of anybody.

This is just what w what I do. But I think that there was some idea maybe in a Stefan's head or somebody that Avengers. The brown or that is going to get an opportunity at this thing. And whoever kind of has been staying true to the game and collectively, and I think that that kind of happened when, when that did kind of show up our Stefan, he had everything to back it up.

I mean, amen is, I mean, everywhere we go was being documented. A lot of shit was being documented, was always being photographed, man, everywhere. We have a development session right now with the master Esteban Oriel guys got fucking show on Netflix, Showtime, um, and a lot more coming. Uh, he, well, he's starting his own streaming platform called Esteban Oriel channel when rival HBO, Esteban Oriel channel,

just poached paramount. No, no, no.

he posts, he put. He knows hoax. Listen, can I talk, can I tell him, Hey man, poached, one of the executives from paramount, their league president is working for us tomorrow. Do you want me to take those or you want me to add 17 million to guilt? If you want to borrow money, buy oil. Okay. I need some juice.

juice, juice, money. I was like, are you Andy? I'm happy that I'm happy. I'm happy. He got the deal with the studio. That's in my neighborhood.

Guess what? All of a sudden that's the on your parking fees are going to go through the roof. We know you're going to put the

I went the other day to them. Look, don't be coming. You know, causing trouble? No, you gotta be cool. All the free coffee you want a big left over at

nine 11. everybody where we always want free shit, man. I don't think that I always want free shit, motherfucker. What are you talking about? I always try to give free shit. I should get you against free shit, man. You would just ask him for juice money as two seconds ago, that's go back to the development.

Let's go back to the development. You got a creative genius and we're wasting congrat Hey car. Now what? Wait, wait, wait, can I ask the question different way from developing the shell? Um, you can ask Anthony, you can talk about that, right, please. So he says that, uh, Esteban was always doing stuff when no one knew like it was going to pan out.

And I can't just say. It'd be unfair to say that, that, um, there wasn't, it was cartoon. It was a stab on that. And, and, and the whole look, and the whole thing was, was being done and nobody was, nobody wanted to fuck with it. Everybody's scared of it. Nobody gave him any credit. Like that was the majority you guys have this whole thing, nobody getting it and leaving it.

They had to go to Japan to do the first, there are two of their photo and his drawings because nobody here wanted it monitoring. But later years later, when I'm saying, it's like, oh, that shit is where the whole everybody went to. And I used to be burned out about it. I used to be like, man, these motherfuckers wouldn't listen.

You know, like we've been showing them that shit forever. But as the, on his remained, not that guy, he doesn't do that type of shit. He just stayed cool. Because when you're holding four ACEs, you can have patients in a poker game. Right. But when you really do have it, you ain't tripping and he really has it.

Right. Did you always believe that it was going to pan out of that? Um, yeah, just a lot faster. I thought I was gonna, I thought she was going to go through, but then I was like, so invested that I couldn't quit. I was like so deep in it. I was like, I'm not pulling out now. Remember it, remember, listen, you know what I'm saying?

So it's like we met when he talked about LA originals, when it finally came through and it looked like it was going down south by Southwest and then COVID hit or something hit. And it was like everything, every little daydream that you were having was just getting smashed and you think you broke through it?

Bam. And it even ends up that it, it was right for it to go down. But this is why, now that we, now that the gas is in the car here, now that I'm choking on his fucking corner. And now that the gas is in the car and we've got a development, hold on, developmental genius here. That's the one. Why don't we, why don't you think about what would you.

Okay, because we know gold. What would you do to create either a docu-series or even a show around big Mac key? What would it be called? How would you approach it? What would it be? All of a sudden left peace, quiet as a mother fucking church, right? I'm talking about church hill Butler, no church house mouse.

Now forget that. Let's get back to your shows. It's trying to make a star out of you. Let's go. Well, wouldn't be as like one of those, um, continuing continuous showers. Yeah. What would it be more like? Um, it'd just be a straight out documentary. Like I have a sizzle reel that I did of, of and another one about DACI.

Cause, uh, I've thought like those would be cool. Little breakaway stories from LA originals and those. Two stories outside of me and cartoon that got a lot of response. A lot of people gravitated towards those, those guys. Yeah. Because you know, I mean, they both been through a lot of shit. Right. And, um, that's what I was telling.

Lipkey the other day I was like, amen. About a year ago was the best I've ever seen you, you know, in, in the 20 something years that I've known you, you know, you have the five years clean, you're managing all those, you know, sober livings. You're the manager, your house, you were going to school to get your, um, what's that thing called the, the counseling for drug and alcohol addiction.

You got one level, but you got to go to level to where Smitty's actually got to do the homework and then he'll go to the next level. Yeah. Maybe he's just trying to get some frequent. So I was telling him I've never seen. Better than this should've been. Yeah. But this true, you are the healthiest in, in physically that I've ever seen him.

My healthiest in his head, he was helping, you know, a lot of people all around the world that were getting at him because they saw him in LA originally, it was like, Hey man, it's building up a following. Yeah. W you know, you, you inspired us a lot. And, and I have the same type of issues that look like that you had in that, in the documentary, you know, what can I do to change?

And he was helping a lot of people that were just getting at him through Instagram. And, you know, now it's like a worldwide nationwide thing. It wasn't just, he was helping people in LA cause before he's. Yeah. He, you know, when he'd get clean and sober, he'd help people in LA that are, you know, in direct contact with him.

But now because of social media and all. He's branched out worldwide, you know, so I think the, uh, the, that, uh, a documentary on him and his whole story with would be inspiring to a lot of people. I agree. And, um, and I have a lot of footage of him, you know, in the dark places and, and in the light. And, um, that's what I'd tell him, man, because of my age, we should film this shit, you know, that you're doing, he was like, why do you want to feel now when you know, I don't, maybe I don't want people to see, you know, me doing that kind of shit.

Homie. That's the shit that gets people's attention and you're doing it anyways for no reason. Right. So why don't we do it? And then with a reason, you know,

no, there's a reason you're doing it, but there's no, there's nothing coming out of it. Except you just going deeper into the shit, going deeper in the rabbit hole. So there's, you know, uh, something positive out of it. Right. What I'm trying to say. Right. Getting all the negative out of it. That's for sure.

But you know, why don't we document a little bit of it and get something positive out of it for later? You know, I don't even like doing it. Like I, I'm not, I'm not cool with watching my homie do fucked up shit to himself. Right. But I will throw myself, you know, on the fire, uh, you know, to, to get that shit.

You know, for the, for the project overall. Well, the shaker getting the story. Right? Right. So, uh,

you're good with all that right

now. So this is what he says in rebuttal. That whole Sherm would look like a glazed donut. Okay, go ahead. Well, again, again, listen, listen. This is what are we using? Wait, what'd you say lip? I have your first.

Okay, so we're at the . Hey, Hey, here we go. He's got a question for Smitty Smith.

Everybody know you. Ain't gonna, somebody goes, Hey. Yeah, it was a problem with that thing. And then I got somebody else. I've got me go. That was one clip of you talking. I don't understand what you're saying. I hear that every day for hours circles,

this is what I hear. I drove you to fucking LA you know, it's the true, like really? Because I've noticed a lot of things in my life that distracted a lot of individuals in that right there that ain't never going to stop. Like shiny. Good. Hold up. Thank you anyway. Right. Well

off and they all start firing off.

anyway. No, no, no. Personally, I learned a lesson. Imagine if you died, that's what you'd be hearing all the way up. You'd be like,

let me know when you're ready. Look, bro. Look, bro. Remember the baby, right? He wouldn't do it.

where's the baby Ray who was here? He was doing and doing the fucking back arms. Yeah. I love sweetie. We're going to go look for baby. I need it. I'll give you his phone number. You can go right there, here, Smith. He's got something to say. She made a, what do you have to say? Chocolate shop? Yeah. Yeah. I heard, I heard that Jan Sussman is doing a documentary, this street of streetwear.

Yeah. And he said they already did one of those. Right. That's what I heard, but they didn't get all the right people. Yeah. But, uh, Jan's doing one says that he's going to be getting you on talking to you and, and talking about some of that stuff. What, uh, what's going on with the stem on Oreo apparel right now.

And, uh, and what's going on with joker brand brand coming back slowly? Is it wasn't? Yeah, like, like everything, I never quit anything and I, uh, just keep doing, you know, consistent. I still have a, I still have a joker Europe. Right. Going strong a long time. Yeah. Tim out there and joker Europe does everything, right?

Like as far as, uh, the way he does shit for the brand. Um, for so many years, I had a fight with all of our partners, you know, that the Chinese investors and the Israelis, and it was always a struggle, you know, I always had to like, uh, you know, plead my case with them when they didn't know shit about what I was trying to do or anything.

So it was like, I was always hitting a brick wall with every, everybody that we, you know, ever worked with. So now it's just me, you know, I. And I have Tim over there in Europe, he's doing it. He knows exactly what to do exactly how to do it. And he does it perfect. The, you know, he does a little bit better than me because that's his main focus.

That's all he has to do everything. He's not doing books or Henry's, or, you know, taco trucks or none of that shit. He's just doing joker Europe. Right. But, um, you know, for, for me here in LA, I shipped to, uh, uh, we have a guy in Thailand who distributes to us. We have a guy in Taiwan, a couple of guys in Japan, um, Canada, Sheila Peru.

So, you know, I have, I still have, uh, you know, people all around the world, distributed it and selling it in a time where. Everything is online. We, I still have people, you know, getting it out there in their area, which is cool. And then, uh, you know, I do my thing here pretty much. I sell it in on, uh, at Brooklyn projects and Nixon, Myrtle in Highland park.

I love LA. Yeah. I love LA sells. And Steven Oriel do incredible for me, you know, that I always, like, I used to go in there like five years ago and just be like, man, it'd be crazy to get my LA stuff in a, in a store like this, where it's LA base, you know? Wow. And somewhere where people can go in and really get the shit, you know, you might sell a lot of product to them in the best places, fucking the airport, you know, dude it's so it was really smart that they opened that place.

Yeah. Wow. And they had, you're like your number one thing, right? They, I do good there. It's just cool that, uh, you know, I used to go in there and think that I should be here one day, you know, it should be in here. And then I saw like homeboy industries get the bakery there and, uh, earth cafe and all these different places.

We're getting these spots, trail tacos, you know, like, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ago, you would never think any of that shit ever be in the, in the, in the airport. Wow. So when I finally, you know, this guy reached out to me to see like where I could, if I, if they could, you know, do something with me in that store that I love LA store.

Yeah. I was like, man, fucking here it goes, you know, it's happening finally. And, um, he made that connection and the shit's been going great ever since in there, except during the COVID when the whole airport got shut. Yeah, right. Fucking Esteban Oreo joker print. It's not Joe, the books, the photos, the films.

Right, right. And then your, all the other shit, but wow. So had stolen. You busy dog grinding for 20, this drops on HBO, right, man. Did I'm excited 30 years and watched the shit, your house or what? Oh yeah. Well, we're going to try and get a little, uh, screening going on somewhere for the homeys that we can all go and celebrate, you know, somewhere at a movie theater, where of course they let the homie smoke, smoke some weed.

So Simon movie puts a little bit where they ever, that might be the spot where they do a brain dead. Right. Or, uh, you know, someone. Maybe when a Quentin Tarantino spots, but definitely, uh, I went and saw, uh, um, the song remains the same, the night that is Jimmy page's birthday. So it was a very January 8th at 12 o'clock at night specifically?

No, the, the one on Beverly that's combining go to that and Beverly in the Brady theater. And so I went and watched it there. The owner was like, we're going to play it loud, you know, so you can really enjoy the music. But I mean, for me, I would, uh, order a little bit extra sound package, you know, cause, um, it wasn't loud enough and it wasn't clear enough.

I wanted to hear that shit, like at a show, you know? Yeah. So I'm thinking like if we do something for the Cyprus project, you know, we definitely have to bring in a little bit of extra sound. So I know a guy you get to hear and feel that fucking, that shit. You know how a guy, oh, blue eyes is an audio engineer.

So I think it'd be cool to do screenings for the home, man. That'd be awesome, man. You know, he could really be great, bro. What do you think? Oh, what is leptin? No, bro. What do you mean? No.

What I will do is I collect the kitty. He wants to collect the kid, he at the end, and then what these fucking

shit doing, guys getting all bummed out. They DD big money coming

in and out in, and the numbers don't change the format. Bull G Hey shit, motherfucker. Shoot mine. Yeah. What we're going to do? Okay. This is what we're going to do, man. What are we going to do? Are you going to eat a hot dog? When you go watch the movie eat a hot dog. Now my blood pressure goes up.

my blood pressure. I just fucking sticks a mess up my ass. Damn.

secrets. Oh, Hey, what's going on today is step one. It to the taco truck, the LA originals taco truck to this tennis tournament over there. And I want a religion tennis tournament. Yeah, we do it all. Hey dude, is that the Esteban Oreo open classic tennis tournament? No, not yet. We're working on that right now.

Right? Is there anything you're not doing? Um, yeah, there's a light Oreo taco truck. Are you guys just popping up at special events right now? Yeah, me and Paige, we just roll up to the events that, you know, we know people get it. Cause I mean that whole industry that talk there, that the food truck shit is just a shit show.

You know, there's like so much out there. Right. Many out there. And like you just, you just can't roll up and think like, oh, I got these pictures on the truck. I got good food. I'm going to make thousands today. You know, it's a hard thing to break, but we kind of found our niche to get us off the ground. And that is to go to a people, events that know us, they get it and they want us there.

Right. So it's, you know, it's kind of, it's just the way that we're going with that right now. And we don't want it to be out. I think you have a great taco, great product. And if anybody has any inquiries that wants to really fucking jump into a big, nice restaurant deal with these guys, I think we're going to sell on Oreo LA original tacos should be a restaurant who did Kenny Rogers roasters.

They're working with Esteban right now, trying to see if they can do a version of that with Esteban Oriel, with all that go for them. It went well. But what they want to do is do your. Copyrighted protected LA fingers image that everybody tries to steal. Right. And turn it into a dining experience. That's what I understand.

Now I got to tell you guys to be honest and I, you know, I'm sorry. I don't mean to, but so hard, like talking to Esteban and then in behind us Davon, I see. . Just like twitching and twisting and he's smoking this gigantic, babe. And so like, Esteban's like, well, yeah, I was working on this thing in 10 years and finally like this, and then he's back there, like a little flipper, like he's like a little Manatee, like, like he's a little Manatee with little hands and it's a belly is an arm rest like a Simpsons character.

He really does do it. It's kind of scary. It's like, uh, it said little bit, you said you were going to drive with us and we were still waiting on that. Hey, it'd be better if he went with

How about this? Cause I was thinking about it. I'm like, I think you should give, asked him on all access pass to your life, big lap to document it for time. . I would say let's do it because I liked the idea, dude. I'm telling you right now. See the movie where you need gas money. I don't need Jack shit. I am self I'm.

Self-made super motherfucker. Let me tell you something. Leprosy the movie. You asked your question and then I let get the movie comments done. And now we are, we're sharing the movie. Okay. Share it. But I'm telling you right now, Esteban, I'm telling you this guy right here is one. Here's some wonder to build one in a zillion.

That means that means that it's so weird. You know what? I'm going to tell you. This is my personal feeling. The reason why you listen, the reason why you're able to make the mistakes that you've made in your life is partially because somehow you have the blessing of, of charisma. Like people like you, they really like you.

And everybody wants to see you do well. And it gives you a lot of room to make mistakes, bro. And you got big ass bumpers and you need this finally capitalize on it and finally respected. what would you make you feel? Who you make you feel that I'm not respecting myself doing what I know what to do? Well, we just talked about fucking tools.

They're not sharp. So I'm taking advice. I got calling people love, like, and then my sponsor says you did the wrong call. You're supposed to cover it for you already. I was already loaded in my head. Way before I put any type of dope in me. I know you're not a psychiatrist. I am actually

oh, I actually am. But, but, but let me just say something to you big for real, and this is on the real, all the joking aside and everything. I'm going to tell you for real, for me, and this is not really for everybody else, because I truly believe everybody's sobriety journey really is a particular eyes special onto themselves.

Okay. I'm really serious about that. But I will say this, the one thing that seemed to things that seemed to give me longterm sobriety, I'll let, I'll let that pass is. Yeah, it's what it is, but here's the deal one. I made a decision in my heart that like, you know what, if I die sober, but I'm never financially celebrity, whatever successful in my life.

That's still a success. Of course. Don't say, of course to me, brother just don't do it. No, no, no, no. Just listen to just take it in. Can you take something in for watch, besides, besides what we both know you took in when at one time we went crazy last time. All right, so that's one. Thank you. So, oh, I'm sorry.

Just, it's not, it's not exciting enough for you, my friend, maybe if you listened, you be in a different situation right now. Robin asked me, I'm not asking you anything right now. I remember the situation I needed to be. Right. But I'm just trying to tell you the truth. One is it's a success. If I don't pick up and die and two, I don't pick up, I don't care about what's going on in my life.

You can say whatever you want from your position, you are arguing. But are you humble enough? Don't give me that. Look, let me hear if I'm humble or enough, are you humble enough to actually take advice? That's destined to help you? That's why I'm here. Is that why you're here? I know you got, cause look, I asked Yvonne that man's is success.

Look at us. He's in a success or role. Do you get him fucking no, I didn't say about I'm sorry. Can I talk to myself? Is that cool? You, I mean like all the DMS that I've been getting on you lately, but I'm used to being hated, bro. I don't even worry. I'm like, would you like being hated? Don't try to distract.

Try to distract. I'm just saying, well, we've tried to talk to you and you got something specials. All I was trying to tell you, that's where I get a loaner because I always have all the answers that don't get me. No. Well, you know what I think too, I think too is like, you know, that you know, that people like a stamp on it taking ETA that dude take your time to shoot the, uh, your, your, you know, do the trailer on you and get you out there with your writing and bring you in the car, all that stuff.

And then, uh, you know, people set up shit. And then when you give, when you go to decide to go get loaded, now, how about some kid going to be taking you? Don't be, you don't be thinking about what that man did. He's trying to set you up to win. And when you do that, it's that fuck. Cause we need you to feel like you're so far in this fucking thing, that you're part of the team now, so that time's going to come and you don't need to go out on the fourth floor.

We need you in have everybody in a certain way. I'm not just sitting there, consider myself, have we all like, really realize in your own thinking that that to care for others and to care for yourself to maybe like somebody like got at me and they're like, you need to stop fucking caring for others and start caring for yourself or that this was talk.

That's probably the case for you. Since you were 16 years old, he should've been . I only give a fuck about nobody. Yeah. You got to take care of, first of all, let's not get, let's not get killed. I'm saying let's not, let's not get confused on DMS from people they live in your life. Let, let the truth of the matter is is that you sh you have gifts that you should take seriously.

And you're not, that's all I'm saying, right? That's really what I'm saying. You're not taking yourself. You're doing is. The pupil, right. It's fucking with people. Right. But, but, but see, but, but, but the issue is, and that's true, but, but let man, I'm talking about, when I talk to you sometimes when I'm being real, I can see that there's a wall where it's not getting through, I've taken this wall down and that's made me the reason why that I know my runner ability to the things that I could be comfortable and get away.

One more time. I don't like living like that. I can't lay my head down at night knowing that I'm, you know, lying to motherfuckers and playing the part or you keep shaking them moving, man, I man, yes. Because a big luck, big Lux knows big Lux knows the shoe grind store. And he knows the whole thing. I'm not just saying, I'm honestly telling you that until you take your, with the bullshit.

It's bullshit, bro. Yeah, man. Like, like yeah. Well you got to go, well guess what time? Once again, Smitty, you didn't get a shot. Listen. Big lap. My daughter's got ballet and she's got some great I'm going to come home. I love you. Big lap. I love you. And listen. Let's, let's pray for big love right now, dear God, dear Lord, dear Lord, dear Lord, who is in heaven please?

No, no, no, no, no. Listen, we're going to pray for you. We're going to pray for you. This is a sincere yes. Can I pray, dear Jesus, please help. And I mean this from the bottom of my heart, with all my energy. Please help. Esteban Oriel get a beer commercial, just like Mr. Cartoon, but like no Corona. No, no, no. But seriously, I prepped for you big lip on many, many, many, many, many, many positive energies to you.

Big lab, as much as I like to joke and tease you, the truth is is that deep, deep down. I really believe that yes, something and you've already given a lot to the world and I hope that you can be open-minded and I hope people look out for you. And I hope that God puts his energy around you. And I hope that you can honestly face the truth in your heart.

And I hope you can let yourself step up and be the adult man that you were destined to be not the boy, not the kid, not the jokester. The man, not just for you. But for everyone in your life that looks up to you and takes their instruction from what you do is so important. My brother. And so with that, I hope that whatever the universal powers are, they propel you on your way to success and positivity.

Now, with that being said, I love you luck. Thank you guys. April 20th. When you pull up in front of UTVs, April 20th, HBO, right? The Cyprus, Showtime, Showtime, Showtime, we're going to be pumped. We're going to be posted. I'm going to start posting this shit up, like about a month before it comes out. I want everybody following my lead, but we're all gonna celebrate this.

You know, this is the second one up by her Stovall. You know, this is a shit salmon. I'm excited, bro. I know that we can't talk about all the projects you have going on. We can't, we don't have time, but Lipkey took up the title, never schedule that Pete and intervention on left key. This'll be shown on how many times we have a step on, on, and then we got to do these cell on part two, because the part one somehow some way

more, you come separate. Now you don't

and then maybe, maybe that's the reason why a lot of people around here, they have that thought like you just separate. Let's just separate the old motherfucker, right? No,

get more out of what you didn't get. Okay. No, no. And listen, and from dot com right there, run Oreo. So a Stefan Oreo at a step or your shop. Yep. You ain't get mad at the other one. Joker joker brand USA joker brand.com is Stephen royal.la Schmitty. Bizarre on lefty.com. Right. And yeah, I got, when I got one, I want, I want to give a shout out to a thank you.

Nocturnal Xero's coming out with something. Yeah, I got them over there. Uh, since I'm not helping nobody, I guess I just got them in there. You know, we're just pumping them up a little bit, you know, and he's got some music on, so I got, so now I got a fuck, bro. Damn man. Are you going to real Indian? Oh, I grew up on a reservation.

I'm a car. I don't listen to no Indian.

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