What began as a discussion of the 10 best cartoons of all time somehow morphed into a chat about just how underappreciated and brilliant Firefly was. Joel Murphy and Lars wax poetic about the short-lived Joss Whedon show and its follow up movie, Serenity. They also try to pinpoint where things went wrong with The Family Guy, why South Park doesn't get the respect it deserves and why Joel is getting copies of Architectural Digest and W sent to his house.