170. Holding a Divine Anchor in the Middle of Bombs Falling

Key Conversation Points: How can we enlarge ourselves for someone else's story?  What does it mean to embrace the ordinary smallness because therein lies the glory, the DNA, of Christ.  Lisa-Jo's intimate perspective on Ukraine is so vital to understand right now. Learn from her memories and experience.  Where Lisa-Jo used to work in Ukraine is the area that flashes across the news all the time right now. Who knew that building has so many special treasures?! How do Lisa-Jo's Ukrainian friends still have their ordinary mornings even in the midst of hearing bombs exploding in the background?  We can't opt out on the ordinary, holy moments and only focus on death and destruction.  Sorrow and every day life can hold hands.  What does Christie mean about naming and unnaming? How can it push back darkness?  Shannan's Instagram Post is here.  Lisa-Jo's Ukraine Post is here.  Podcast links: Click here to join the conversations we have with listeners every week around the podcast. https://www.blackbarnonline.com/ _______ Sponsor appreciation: We're so grateful to partner with show sponsors that keep making our work possible. Click here to visit Green Chef and use code ordinary130 to get $130 off including free shipping! The #1 Meal Kit for Eating Well! https://greenchef.com/ordinary130 Click here to join over 1 million people taking charge of their mental health through the online counseling offered by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month. http://www.betterhelp.com/ordinary Click here to visit Nutrafol and use the promo code ORDINARY to save $15 off your first subscription. https://nutrafol.com/ _______ Click here to sign up for your own digital Paper&String; care package curated by Christie, Lisa-Jo and friends. http://outoftheordinarypodcast.com/ps